polliwog

When is it appropriate to start a new thread?

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Middle ground, always middle ground. Have rules, make them flexible and enforce when necessary.

The long threads can be too much at times which makes it nice to hop into an new discussion but whatever, both make up this site and the conversations seems mostly on topic and respectful.

That being said, who wants to talk about cooking or their favorite Cure or Dylan song because I'm always up for talking about that...

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Mods and rules aside, I agree with what (I think) SeaSee is saying - that the best forums (in terms of the signal to noise ratio) tend to develop a culture that encourages thoughtful posts that add value.

It's why some forums are awesome resources and others are spam-fests full of flaming.

When non mods complain I think it's often less that they want to be the "mod police" and more that they are invested enough in the community to want a standard of discussion to be maintained.

In fairness, we've also had relatively new members do a fair bit of ranting over the years, and no one stopped them... Remember the guy with the wonky star?

Is people sticking their oar in about inane or unnecessary posts really inherently unfair ... does it somehow infringe on people's rights? Meh. This is a privately owned forum with public access.

Also, The pushing goes both ways and if we're indeed all adults here then no harm done. No one is exactly oppressed here.

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In fairness, we've also had relatively new members do a fair bit of ranting over the years, and no one stopped them... Remember the guy with the wonky star?

Ha! Yes, that was a good one. Sometimes the pre-offended newbies are fun conversations. Like the piercer from the place in NJ who admitted her Yelp reviews were fake but was still upset about them. It took quite a while for those bannings to occur.

+1 to @AverageJer as well. It gets tiring to have these us-versus-them posts. If anyone has a suggestion, there is a thread about asking questions - go over there and suggest how you think this forum could be improved. <---And THIS is a reason this forum format is cool - how many times has someone asked a question, and someone else comes along with the link to a long thread with tons of good information??? This cannot happen if there is a new thread every other microsecond.

But like I'm a masochist or something, I'll still continue to step in and offer the bull-in-the-china-shop analogy until I get just as tired of it as the old timers who are mostly ignoring this thread because they're tired of saying it too. If you don't like the format....there are other forums.

This kind of stuff is the reason that many of the tattooers aren't contributing to this forum anymore, and unfortunately, back-and-forths like this are one of the reasons why, and new folks have no idea this is happening. And we are losing valuable resources and informative conversations.

Soooo, [bIG SARCASM ALERT BOYS AND GIRLS]I guess makes me a mod-wanna-be.

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And @polliwog - you've built up street cred with your thoughtfulness and interesting conversation. Start threads when you want. NOT BECAUSE I'M BEING ALL MOD_WANNA_BE :)

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Again remember, Tapatalk search does not work. Be kind.

It's less about Tapatalk (I think) and more about just basic social graces. (god I sound old).

IN FULL DISCLOSURE I had a big vent somewhere on this forum when I first came here about how bad the search engine sucked after *I* was told to search for something. Because I ALREADY HAD searched for it. Since then, the search engine interface has been much improved (hint: use advanced search) - thanks @steve1461686340!

Damn near every time you see me put up a reference link for someone, I find the link using Advanced Search and it take me - no kidding - no more than 30 seconds. Maybe a couple minutes, if I want to be thorough and provide multiple references.

So as a result of my little search experience vent, now I'm completely won over by stuff like this:

"I tried searching but I couldn't find ...." or "Tapatalk search sucks and I couldn't find..."

PS @jen7 - I'm not implying anything about you or your posts, k? :)

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Well, I disagree that anyone should post anything they want without fear, and this notion of policing.

I'm not interested in a forum where there is random spewing of whatever someone wants without some thought about the atmosphere of the forum. Just because it's the internet doesn't make it the wild wild west - that's why so many other forums suck. And just because it's public doesn't mean it's fair game. And just because it's public doesn't mean that this site doesn't cost someone money to run...and they sorta get a say about how things go.

If someone isn't interested in lurking and checking the place out, and getting a feel for the atmosphere and expectations, then move along. Think of it like a big gathering, party, club ... there are always some social "rules" you need to be aware of. Standing in the middle of the room and announcing that you don't like the social rules doesn't endear you to anyone, and you will likely be ignored, given the hint, or escorted to the door.

If it's topical news, start a thread. Make sure it goes in the right sub-forum. If it's not interesting or the issue is resolved, the thread will naturally die off. If it's clear the poster hasn't wandered around here and gotten a feel (e.g., "what inks should I be using"), then yes, people will get testy, because the poster didn't read the guidelines. If it's genuine, no one is going to get bent. If you cop an attitude or appear to be coming to the party ready to be offended, then prepare to get "policed."

$0.02.

again,IMO like I said,as long as the topic is in the correct sub forum,spew away ! and again also,IMO it is the wild wild west in a way,especially on an adult tattoo related discussion forum.

if the mods don't like something they will tell us.it's not up to the other regular members to moderate.

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if the mods don't like something they will tell us.it's not up to the other regular members to moderate.

You understand the mods are just regular members right? They aren't elected officials or gods.

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What do you think "moderating" means?

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You understand the mods are just regular members right? They aren't elected officials or gods.

it means it should be done by the members that are actually assigned to be moderators,that's all I was saying :(

I know what it means,

nevermind,this has gone far enough. have a great day :)

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it means it should be done by the members that are actually assigned to be moderators,that's all I was saying :(

I know what it means,

nevermind,this has gone far enough. have a great day :)

Sure, no problem.

I just asked what you thought "moderating" is because I think we are actually talking about two different things, and possibly the source of this confusion.

Seeeya

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Think of it like a big party ...

I do love a good party...although I have a tendency to drink too much &, well, you know...

Although, I haven't been drinking lately, or taking enibriating substances and I'm back full swing into my training again.

I wasn't sure where to post all that info. Shitty things, Awesome things or the Training Thread.

Anyway...I wouldn't look too deep into the matter (not directed at anybody). I see what @polliwog is saying here. Some real good info get's left behind, but we're not reinventing the wheel on this...I see the same consistent feedback on the majority of questions asked here.

I got a Q but...it's coming into winter here. Who else finds it real difficult to be under the hammer when it's faaarkin' cold?

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@Mick Weder - my favorite time for getting tattooed is in the colder months!!! Gives me more of an excuse to take it easy and hibernate.

I do love a good party...although I have a tendency to drink too much &, well, you know...

Although, I haven't been drinking lately, or taking enibriating substances and I'm back full swing into my training again.

I wasn't sure where to post all that info. Shitty things, Awesome things or the Training Thread.

Anyway...I wouldn't look too deep into the matter (not directed at anybody). I see what @polliwog is saying here. Some real good info get's left behind, but we're not reinventing the wheel on this...I see the same consistent feedback on the majority of questions asked here.

I got a Q but...it's coming into winter here. Who else finds it real difficult to be under the hammer when it's faaarkin' cold?

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