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Syntheticfish

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  1. On 2/12/2014 at 11:59 AM, velvetlover36 said:

    Just out of curiosity--and I'm not being confrontational with this question or trying to dismiss your feelings--how exactly do you feel ripped off? I could see if someone was passing off a design/selling it as one of their own, but if someone gets that image tattooed on them, I don't really see it as the creator of said image being ripped off. I do understand that the tattoo artist is charging the person to tattoo that image on them, but they're charging the person for the work being done on them, not for the image itself. Now if a tattoo artist had someone else's design up on a wall w/o consent and was trying to pass it off as their own, then yeah, I could see where the feeling of being ripped off comes into play...but if an average Joe walks into a shop wanting to get an image tattooed on them, I don't really see it as ripping the artist off.

    Now if the image is copyrighted and the tattoo artist still tattoos the image, then I completely understand where feeling ripped off comes into play...but if there is no copyright attached to a piece of work, there's really no way to enforce it.

    Art is copyrighted automatically to the creator at the point in time it is created.  There is no requirement to register it with the copyright office to receive the copyright.  If you do the paperwork, it's just a lot easier to defend in court.

    The art is what drove the person to get the tattoo, but the artist doesn't get compensated for it in some way?  That's not fair.

    That is why a lot of tattoo designers offer the ability to buy "tattoo tokens" or digital downloads of their work, so that the person can get the tattoo done without any harm to the original artist.

    Just because someone is a tattooer does not mean that they are a tattoo artist.  Tattoo artists generally know how to design tattoos for longevity.  There are a lot of designers that are not tattoo artists, and in time, it shows in how those tattoos age.

    Just because someone is willing to tattoo a found design on another person doesn't mean they should.  There are people out there that are "tattooers" and not "tattoo artists".  Some of these people tattoo designs as they are - ignoring whether the design will hold up well over time or not.  They don't care - they are just being paid to put the image in your skin, they don't care if it's a good idea or not, they don't care if it lasts.  They aren't going to counsel you on how to modify the design to where it would work best as a tattoo.

    This goes back to OPs original question.

    People do this all the time.  Generally, it is appropriate for you to ask the original artist's permission to use their work as a tattoo.  It's polite to at least ask.  People bring found designs to tattoo artists all the time.  The tattoo artist should take whatever it is, and modify it to work for the body part that you want it tattooed on.  This includes tweaking the layout, tweaking the colors - basically optimizing the design so that it works well as a tattoo.

    If someone takes a found design and does not make any suggestion or changes whatsoever, and says they can tattoo it just like that, it should be a red flag.

    Many tattoo artists don't explain themselves when they make changes.  They just plan out how they are going to optimize the design when they study the design to make the stencil.  This is why it's important to check portfolios and find an artist who's work you like overall before approaching them to get a tattoo.

     

    On 2/12/2014 at 11:59 AM, velvetlover36 said:
  2. Looking for a clean, professional, full-time tattoo artist. Please have at least 1-3 years' experience with tattooing. You must have at least one successful apprenticeship under your belt. This is not an apprentice position. I am open to a young tattooer as long as a living wage is part of your career goal. I do not want any hobbyists or people who tattoo just for fun. I consider a living wage to be 70k+, so if you are willing to work towards that, I look forward to hearing from you. I am willing to help the right applicant build clientele.

     

    Portfolio is a must.

     

    We are a street shop that also does custom work with plenty of opportunity, but as you know, how you address the opportunities that come your way make or break the bank. We are primarily by appointment, but we have regular walk-in requests that will multiply if we have tattooers to help them when they ask.

     

    Having specialties is fine, though, I expect every artist that works for me to be capable to take care of anything that is fist size or smaller in any style. Anything larger is generally client's choice, or we pick the best person for the project.

     

    Applicants, please e-mail ( [email protected] ) the following:

     

    Your name

    Location ( driving distance from shop )

    Resume ( both tattoo and non, if you have both )

    Links to your socials and/or website

    If you don't have a website, include 5-10 of your best tattoo photos in the e-mail.

     

    We will be reaching out in 2-3 weeks to the top applicants.

     

    Please do not apply if you have not done a traditional apprenticeship.

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  3. So, the problem with this is that the concept of small or big can be more useful than specific centimeters.  Complaining about how clients describe their ideal tattoo is kind of a joke - The clients don't know any better, and the tattoo artist has no real frame of reference because the perception of wether something is small or not varies from person to person.  We are used to it.  Clients do it in person and they do it on-line.  It's just that in person you can ask them to show you and the problem is resolved immediately.

    The most useful thing that potential clients can do online to give an idea of size is to take a photo of the location on their body where they want the tattoo and circle it with the edit feature on their phone.

    The problem with specifying specific dimensions via e-mail is that more often than not asking the client to go through the trouble of figuring out this type of specification ends in frustration because it sets up the client for disappointment.. most of the time the client wants the tattoo too small for the design they have picked out...

    So a circled area on a photo is more helpful... because it's highly specific and it gives you an idea of what the tattoo should cost without agreeing to something that is highly specific and could change when the customer comes to get the tattoo design sized in person.

    It happens a lot that clients are overly concerned with price and they believe size has something to do with it. They don't understand that certain designs can be done a large range of sizes and still be the same price.

    More often than not, it's clients that are cheap asking this type of question... so they aren't really the ideal clients anyway.  They want house party prices... most people who ask how much a small or large tattoo is are not worth the time.  They are just trying to find someone to do what they want for the cheapest price.  It's cheap and ignorant, like the question "How much for a half-sleeve?".  They just don't know any better.

    Doing things digitally is pretty frustrating... but truthfully most of us have learned to work around this issue... so if you're trying to make a program for tattoo artists and make money off of it... most of us don't really need it.  We have our own websites for leads and can edit the forms if we want additional pictures, references or specifications.

  4. On 4/21/2013 at 3:50 AM, MattCrunk said:

    For the past few years my biggest pet peeve is bargain hunters who's only concern is price, not quality. It's pretty sad that so many people today choose a tattoo shop based on the shop minimum without ever even cracking open a portfolio . . . a direct result of the over-saturation of tattoo shops in recent years, many of which are staffed by artists (and I use the term loosely) who shouldn't even be allowed in the business.

    Bargain hunters definitely suck... what's worse is when they are friends and acquaintances who you aren't nessicarily trying to tattoo but you're trying to give honest advice to.

    I think that has to be the most frustrating for me.  When you give real honest advice and people wrinkle their nose at it like they don't understand.

    I have had quite a few people ask me for tattoos... then deals knowing full well I don't think they should be talking about tattoos at all if price is a factor for them.

    Look at portfolios, pick the artist you want for a reason and pay them well if you're not willing to do this, you don't need a tattoo.

    I guess the pricing issue has a lot to do with scratchers these days... posting basic pricing on instagram and facebook making people think that it's a realistic thing to expect from an artist.

    What's worse though is when you get people asking for bad work on purpose...  some people can't tell the difference between a child's scrawl and Rembrandt.  I don't know how people's brains can function like this... but if the picture they are holding looks the same to them as the black scribble the scratcher did I guess it makes sense how they would be confused about pricing.

  5. On 10/3/2020 at 10:34 AM, SStu said:

    We haven't had any active tattooists on the forum for a few months, so you may not get a lot of input from the practical, delivery side of this question right now. 

    I can help with the receiving side of visiting artists, but you've probably already gained insight on that, yourself! 😁

    I'm interested in the story from both sides... I am getting acclimated to the forum, looks like not many people have been active for a while.

  6. Is there any chance of getting a separate database to manage each month's submissions so they can be viewable all at once on a single page or in a feed?

    - requiring entries be entered by the 2nd day of the following month...

    - polling takes place between the 5th and the 10th of every month for the previous month

    - entries can be browsed, but not voted on or liked until the voting opens...

    There could be different types of submissions too... maybe close to that of conventions?  Where all the sizes and subject matter are covered... and then each individual poll / contest could have it's own landing page, follow option and winner of the month.

  7. On 9/26/2020 at 10:03 AM, Zer0 said:


    It sounds weird but I gave him "free hands" and imho the result is stunning. So basically I would find the main subject (woman) and the background which suits the wolf (forest etc.). So I wanted to research something in terms of what I have in mind. But still, I will contact him for sure as long as we both have time to spare, finding what I like the most/suit the best
     

    It's a good concept... involve him in the conversation, he's doing the piece  and he did the wolf for you... I wouldn't limit him by showing only one design you like, but tell him which you like best... next to the others... you'll get a better, more original piece that way.

  8. He's a good artist... your concepts are all in the same vein... except the dryad girl which is a different direction.

    They aren't anything like what he was suggesting though.

    These also aren't what I'd think of initially when thinking of woman portraits... they are more surreal than what people commonly ask for.  Makes me wonder if you showed them to him yet?

    I'd give them to the artist, tell them a few things that you like and things you don't like about them... and put down a deposit so that he can start drawing.

  9. Hi everyone... sorry, I thought I'd posted here earlier.

    I've found this site a few times over the last year searching various topics.

    I've never traveled and tattooed... so I would like to.  I feel like I'm still practicing right now... I feel like I'm getting close to figuring out my own styles.

    I kind of just try to do my best at tattooing whatever people want.  I just want to get better at it.

     

  10. Just butting in... read the thread, and I couldn't really understand how you got from the inspiration images to an eagle... but it looks nice and clean.

    Forget the olive branch... that's just complicating the tattoo... once the clouds are in there and everything is shaded it will look impressive.

    Trying to change or modify the design when the agreed upon plan is in progress never ends well.

    I'd vote for black and grey or black grey and grey-blue... but that might change after seeing the artist's portfolio.

    Trust your artist... it looks like you chose the right person for your project so far.

  11. Stop using lotion.

    Within 48 hours you should notice a difference.

    lotion should be used as sparingly as possible, and it is usually the cause of people's worry.

    Too much lotion can breed bacteria.

    Let it dry out.

    Itching is normal.  Itch next to it, or tap it... don't itch it directly.

    If the issue worsens, go to see your doctor for anti-biotics.

    As for it being raised... leave it alone and look at it again after 3 weeks.

    If it is still raised after the scab has gone, use cocoa butter daily for a few weeks.

    Don't over-wash the tattoo... you don't have to stop using soap... keep it clean like you would normally.  If you get sweaty, take a shower, if you get dirt or mud on it... wash it.  Don't rub it in dog poo ect...

     

  12. Stu is right... both artists are excellent... it really depends on what you want to get though... if your concept is interchangeable between the two artists... and you're comfortable with both personalities, then either one should work.  If your concept is pirate skeletons and one of them has a whole lot of that in their portfolio that should give you an idea of who'd do it better

  13. We had a client from another shop call us in tears this morning because she was confused about their complicated saniderm instructions, she thought she was going to ruin her tattoo... explained to her the simple time tested rules of healing and she calmed down.  I felt bad for her...

    Also, I've used Saniderm before and i had a reaction to it... thankfully the rash was only around the edges of the saniderm and not on my actual tattoo.  

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