chrome

Who r u trying to get in touch with?

gogue

s. moore

a. lee

hernandez

leu

roper

i. szazi

trevino

flatmo

pacheco

shige

grime

mcstay

grime

mick

cain

The problem with the list is that the list isn't for tattoo community. Take Shaquille for example, ask majority of the us household and they'll tell u that he's a big black basketball player with lots of tattoos. Ask this same people who grime is and they'll say it's dirt.

I don't know this Bob dude but since most of u guys out there think he's a piece of shit I guess he is. But with a proper top 20 maybe he can redeem himself. But there is a saying "u can't polish turd"

on vanishingtattoo.com bob baxter started a list of 101 most influential list. agree with the list so far? who's in there that shouldn't be? top 20 is yet to come but who belongs in the top 20?

MsRad; that is horrible advice.

I guess the joke didn't translate well. The guy who started the thread is from Ireland. So again it was a joke. Seriously.

3 pints of guinness or jameson.

Chrome are you a tattooer or a collector?

To answer your question as to whether I would "respect" Grime,Shige or Horyoshi as much if they weren't tattooed.

No, I personally do not and would not "respect" a tattooer who chose not to experience what I consider the transformative experience of being tattooed- As much as one who did.

I would still " respect" their artistic abilities , just question their motives.

i'm just a collector. other than my neck, hands, and one side of my chest i am covered. maybe it's i'm not in the industry as a worker but i guess i don't really care if the artist is tattooed or not all i care for is they know how to tattoo. on that note artists that i have got tattoo from from are covered from head to toe. but even if they weren't my respect for them as artist would not be diminished one bit. for me it's all about how much they care for the art and the respect they have for tattooing. having said that maybe that goes hand in hand.

i guess i just don't need empathy from my artist. what i care about is how well they will tattoo. r. hernandez, boris from hungry, and chuey quintanar aren't heavily tattooed and i wouldn't hesitate getting anything from them.

would you guys not respect grime, shige, and horiyoshi as much if they weren't tattooed. would you not get things from them if they don't have a drop of ink on them?

but i get what you guys are saying. different strokes...

i don't think the point is that tattooers with little or no tattoos aren't capable of applying great tattoos. They are!

But someone without tattoos doesn't have the benefit of the shared experience or commitment. They can't truly empathize.

I think I wouldn't respect the counsel of a priest regarding marriage as much as someone who had experienced marriage himself.

So u wouldn't get surgery from a surgeon who's never had that procedure? It's just a tattoo, I don't think theres too much to empathize. Although I would say 99% of the "top" artists are heavily tattooed.

No such thing as too fast.

Does Boris from hungry have any tattoos? He's good and I didn't see any tattoos on him. I would def get shit from him even if he doesn't have any.

i love how one thread leads into something completely different, having said that...i know this place isn't here to talk smack about other artist and such and i'm not here to shit on mike giant but...in the same interview he talks about how he hates drawing other people ideas and hate having to deal with blood. isn't that like a professional basketball player saying he's tired of jumping? drawing other people's idea and dealing with blood isn't something new to this business. it's something u know about from day one. it is a requirement!! people who don't like dealing with stoves and oven don't become chefs and bitch about it.

one more thing, the interviewer puts giant in the same sentence as pacheco and roper. what's up with that??? seriously?

I think he's more accessable than people think if they put serious effort into contacting him. but that would only be the case if you were serious about getting tattooed by him.

i read an article on mike giant and how he quit tattoo so that he can pay more attention to his clothing cause he could make way more money doing the clothing. i have no problem with artist making money but when a guy talks like that he loses all respect from me.

i might be talking out of my ass but i've seen his tattoos. i don't think he does the kind of work where other people can't do. i've seen works from roper, shige, pacheco, moore and some of their shit i don't think people can copy and if they do it's done poorly but mike giant, come on. plus, $300 dollars per hour. i know his rate is his rate and if people are willing to pay more power to them but mike giant for $300, get the fuck out of here. i think my anger comes more from his article. doesn't sound like he truly loved tattooing.

if you could start all over again, would you and if so who would you get it by (five max).

where in cali are you from?

Roper: nearly impossible to get his number.

Grime: 3 year wait list

Marcus Pacheco: from what I hear he never check his voicemail therefore never calls u back.

Lot of them are fucked up in their own way. Pick ur poison.