Petri Aspvik

And I think they are from the book 1000 Tattoos by mister Henk Schiffmacher.

It all gravitates and feeds form eachother, giving life for eacother. Just like flash. You have to look PAST it. BEYOND it.

Fuck man, thanks for that post MsRad. I think you made it clear... I get it.

YES! Great post

What I started to think when you wrote

what makes a good photographer? is it technical skills? sure. is it a good eye? again, sure. but there's something more that has to exist for an image to be intriguing, and i'm not convinced that this simply occurs because of training or skill. there is a similar mystery that exists.

is that he felt the world around it. What had MADE the images, still images that he took, he must have captured the process, the life it had lived, the present moment of that building. It wasnt just a building, because he saw what was AROUND IT.

Life

THanks again! My own blog is my humble way of trying to do at least a fraction of the stuff guys like you and Chuck (and Harriet in Bookmistress, great place, I need more money) are doing.

Holy shit hawk, THANK YOU! That was fucking amazing! Where the hell do you get this stuff!? Are you Chuck Eldridge? :D I want to be you when I grow up. Or know what you know. Because I always knew I dont know shit, but now it was proven! :D

thanks Petri. it's almost the intrinsic value of the art/medium that holds that mystery. to me at least. it's really similar to photography in a way.

No prob, thanks for asking :) Do you want to expand your view? Would love to hear more about your comparison to photography

So glad to see you here dude.

Clad that you send me the link man :D

That is I think one of THE QUESTIONS. I dont know if I can give a simple answer, but it is the way you feel when you look at some old Owen Jensen flash, like this one.

It has IT. There is something in that flash that you just can FEEL. And it lacks in so many new ones you see. WHY it is there, its pretty hard to say. Depends on a person I guess.

For me its partly the fact that I like to uphold traditions, they mean something to me. Its the blue print for US, as humans. And I think its magical. It makes you feel closer to the world. And when you ad to that the aura of what tattoos where, a sort of secret club which made you part of something, then its just cool. Theres a another aspect that ads to the aura. And when you think about that important a tattoo can be to a person, then I like the aura around it to be something that is respectful. Not something that is copied just because someone thinks it makes them instant king of the hill. Like they could buy soul. When you just have to show it to have it.

Be true to yourself and your feelings. I think then you can make us all, as human feel connected to EACH OTHER. That to me is the mystery and aura in tattooing.

It's the blue print for our souls

That is the best way I can put it now.

But, on to the topic. As shaneenholm talked about originators and the new generation, for me, as a collector, I agree because there is a enormous romantic aspect in all of this. It is the lineage in there, the feeling of togetherness. It is for some reason many times lost in the new works you see. Because of course as it has been said in this topic, there is a difference between the old sharing of info and the new way. As I wrote in my blog post about Dan Higgs about people seem to act like they want to be the kings, the myths themselfs. Just instantly elevate themselfs to those same romantic pedastals, and not actually build their careers and desings to that level that some day their peers and the clients can lift them there if they want to and "deserve it" (I think in the end of the day everyone who puts their heart into it deserves it). Its like some matrix type shit. Just plug yourself in (go to facebook, myspace etc) and copy the "knowledge".

It bores me and saddens me as a client, because I want to feel the fucking mystery. And as it can be seen, its not about who does the most original shit. All the greats, Coleman, Lieber, Higgs, Hardy, Collins, Devita, Jensen, Stoney and so on, they were influenced. But they also respected.

At least it seems like that. The aura is different. I could try to say more but all of this comes out in my blog, so I dont have anything more to say really...

edit. I wanted to ad. When I talk about that I need more mystery etc., it doesnt mean I JUST want some weird occult stuff. But the mystery can be just honest pure work. Detication and good heart. You know. In these days, THAT is romantic.

awesome examples, shane. and you hit on something else i've always wondered about, but have little info on. the relationship between jeery and lieber. a lot of people don't know that jerry's earlier work was a lot different and he basically adopted lieber's style and ran with it. but if you see a lieber sheet, it looks EXACTLY like jerry could've done it. i've heard hardy will be publishing a book on brooklyn joe, i hope it's addressed in there, and maybe we can shed some light on this.

If you read the last TAM issue where I interviewed Sailor Jerry Swallow, I think if I remember correctly (the interview was originally like 65 pages long!) he talks about this in there. Check it out!

If it wasnt in there, it has to be in the original and I can send the part to you if you like? I havent even read the magazine version so I dont know how much Crash had to cut for it to fit the mag.

what happened to a tattoo reppresents that moment in time...not the endless...touch it up...change it etc....

lets just get tattooed and love it.....no matter what it is....even if it is misspelled....I love that shit....lets put the fun back in this shit...I have a fever....I am probably rambling so i am gonna go take some tylenol and rest my neck

Great stuff you said there Shane as in the rest of the topic, but will just fast comment on this because it reminded me of the tat Sailor Andy did for me, that was old Cap flash/stencil (still cant remember which is was, fuck) http://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/war-stories/41-whats-your-favorite-tattoo-your-body-page4.html#post4103

But, I think the tiger had its paw around the snakes head. I said to Andy something like

Dude, you forgot to put the paw there! (this was like weeks after)

So he just laughed and said something like It has been cut off, deal with it!

:D Funny shit! So, yeah, I agree with you Shane.

I dont know if this thread is cute or just plainly gay ;)

I just mixed some inks. Got some in my pants. Will you wipe it? Slooooowwweeeerrrr....

I just said cute, does that make me gay?

What do you guys think of Shawn Barbers stuff? Do you know the people he has painted and how do they feel about it? Are they weirded out?

I just breath in, and then out :) Or as mister A. P. Shrewsbury beautifully painted

But yeah, it can suck fucking balls ;)

Have to go with this one. Done by Sailor Andy, an old Cap Coleman stencil if I remember right? Well, anyways. It was like 22:00 in Friday night and I had a idea to get tattooed. Andy is in Helsinki and its about 500kilometers/about 310miles from here. I had originally and idea for two pieces of art done by Erik Von Bartholomaus (http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/98/l_dc1d1f35825340ff8c73913693cc98bf.jpg) and then another one which I fucking cant find right now! Cant even remember who it was by... It was like this tiger dragon with hooves on or something... But, I send them both messages and asked for permission and they said cool, go for it! I asked Andy what is up and he said that he has one cancellation for Saturday. I said cool and slept for few hours and hopped in the train. Got there, and the printer was broken... I said what I was thinking of getting and the pics was in my email. And he was like

Ehhh... Fucking tons of lines here... I would have to trace it from the screen...

He was hesitant as would anyone, so I just said the classic

Well, do you have anything you been dying to do?

So he had the Cap piece that had been hanging in his workspace for about a years or so. I said fuck yeah and he did. Bad ass shit

I sit in a train for 5-7 hours before, eat something and go back to sitting in the train for 5-7 hours after the tattoo and go to shower when I get home and sleep.

I also pray Satan to give me strenght and immunity for pain.

Thanks guys. I bought the Outlaw Biker Revue mag before I wrote the blog post because Robert Ryan suggested I get it. Great interview. I also got Eye Tattooed America and Pierced Hearts and True Love was luckily in one library here in Finland, so I got that and copied all the pages with art work :cool:

I would have bought it but it was too expensive at that moment

Pierced Hearts and True Love, A Century of Drawings for Tattoos

Anyone who hasnt got it, get it! Or if there is a particular pic in there you want to see/have, I can post it here or send in email.

But, about Higgs. The Lungfish album Feral Hymns is like a blue print to tattoo desings. Particularry the song Wailing Like Dragons. I listened to that album non stop when I got back from Helsinki with my two new Sailor Andy tats.

Great little personal moments with that record :)

A great fucking documentary (besides Mark of Cain) is Blatnoi Mir. Nearly fucking IMPOSSIBLE to see anywhere. At least in the internet.

Illume

It has one of the most depressing scenes I have seen. A young man, maybe in his 23 or something like that is sentenced in the Island Prison for the rest of his life. He, as I gather all the other inmates when convicted there, get to spend one day with someone and then they dont see ANYONE but the guards and maybe other inmates ever again.

The young man spends the day with his mom and when she has to go and they hug, fucking christ... if you ever have searched for visual represantation for the saying

They never wanted to let go

THAT is it. Fuck me, I cried like a little child, but I was older so I cried with more memories and feelings.

Hey people, new to the forum. Just found it trough gougetheeyes. But, anyone interested, a old blog post about Higgs

Pitch black 1891: DANIEL HIGGS

Mind you, I have never met him or anything like that and its my personal view, just would be curious to see what you guys think, because I know some also think that it even shouldnt be in the internet. Or maybe I am giving too much credit for my own self ;)

Hail Lucifer

Great fucking post Hawk!! Most interesting part was about the natural progression of guest spots due to the ban. You got any more info about this?