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  1. I take it you have been there too? For a cover up or complete removal?How many sessions did you take to be finished?
  2. All right, session four down. This time I went in six weeks after the last session. Settings were increased to 3.1, then reduced to 2.8. I actually bled a bit at the session and have quite a few small blisters already. This one seemed to show a lot more progress. I will likely wait 12 or more weeks before the next session. the first images are progress from the third session. the gory ones are four hours after my fourth session.
  3. Bingo! The concept of permanence is possibly playing a larger, if not total, role in your doubt than the tattoo, image, execution, location, experience...etc.
  4. I’d venture to guess that if this is only your second tattoo and first in a visible spot, your feelings of anxiety are completely reasonable and probably not too uncommon. Some of my friends have fun teasing me cause they know I tend to be very harsh and unsure about my tattoos. Compound this with the fact you can see 1,000’s of the best tattoos from the best artists all around the world, refreshing on your instagram feed hourly. AND the fact that you can appreciate all of those without the consequences of getting them and it makes even more sense why one would second guess, go through shock or feel a sense of regret. It’s actually probably a big part of the power and statement of tattoos, a sense of live for today, don’t care about tomorrow, self assured impression whether actual or just imagined. In conclusion, take the advice you’ve received so far and stop looking at it or thinking about it at least until it’s completely healed, settled in, no longer shiny and overly saturated looking. Give yourself permission not to deal with it about it for at least three months before you can make a reasonable, levelheaded decision or opinion about it.
  5. HEY been there and I feel for you. I second what JAC said. Take a break from thinking about it or even looking at it for a while. Once the tattoo has settled and you are more used to it you might be surprised to find you actually like it and what you are experiencing now is just the panic of the concept rather than the art. I say this both as a fairly medium/heavily tattooed guy and also someone who tends to have strong negative reactions to most of the tattoos I get initially. There have been a few I continued to dislike past the normal break in phase. For these, two of them were “fixed” by just adding more around them. I found some of what I didn’t like was the placement or how much the stood out all alone. Also, adding took some of the attention away and then defects didn’t seem so annoying. i have even started laser removal for one of them that I continued to regret. I don’t recommend this method unless you have tons of extra cash, are good with horrible pain and don’t mind taking a couple years to complete the process. I’m an open book on this experience so feel free to shoot me a message with any questions. ultimatley, most of this tends to come down to temperament. I tend to be the type of person who second guesses even what I order for dinner, of course I’m going to have difficulty adjusting to a tattoo. That is until I have enough that each one doesn’t matter as much, which is where I’m at right now. Now I go for the fun of getting one, to add to a spot, and/or to collect from an artist I’m super pumped about. Before I had too much focus on the specific design and nothing was ever perfect enough.
  6. You are welcome. I’m happy to answer any questions related to my experience. I’ve read so much online and there seems to be the set/standard bite sized pieces of information on each blog and site. I’m looking forward to my next session as I feel like very tiny parts of the tattoo, show significant, immediate improvement after each session, then those tiny spots tend to grow, doubling the results in that area before the next session. So the progress in six weeks should be greater than what I initially see. At some point I will photoshop these images together so I can see side by side. Since the tattoo is continuing to make progress after the session, I believe the longer I wait between sessions the greater the impact, but that I don’t know for sure.
  7. I am getting a discounted rate since this is with my primary care physician that I have seen for the past 14 years. I don’t feel right advertising that price but I can say that places seem to charge by the square inch and this is considered a med/large tattoo by laser removal standards. I was quoted $800 per session if I bought five sessions up front from one place. My doctor quoted over five per session but I made a deal to pay in advance for five so he cut the price down for me. In general, I would figure about the cost to double the cost of getting it, per session as that’s what it has worked out for me. Should advancements like the RAP come out and actually work, I would pay considerably more if it could double or triple up results per session.
  8. Yep. Still not sure, 3 sessions in, if I am a candidate for complete removal but if I am, it should be close to 10 sessions total.
  9. Updates about a week after 3rd session. More small blisters this session. Less recovery time and I think more results. Laser settings were increased in intensity this time. I also had a bit of pealing this time which I don’t remember having before. Plenty itchy now but I’m encouraged as I look at the first pictures I posted compared to now. I could get in again as quick as four weeks from now but think t will save me sessions and money waiting longer as the process of ink removal continues, this increasing the contrast for the laser to zap in the next session.
  10. Images show slooooow progress after About 12 weeks post second session. I’ll post update after third.
  11. Hi @HollyJoy I just happened to check in to the forum today for the first time since my last post. Good timing with your post. Regarding updates, I continue to see progress since my second session, which occurred nearly 14 weeks ago. I read somewhere that from an economical standpoint, it may be better to space out your sessions at least 12 weeks apart. This makes sense to me as there are still ink droplets being removed by your immune system and the more that is removed, the higher the contrast between what remains and what no longer remains, thus having potentially greater effectiveness on the remaining tattoo. I am trying to bring myself to schedule my next session. I would like to make a comment in a general way about how I view removal at this point. Essentially, I am pleased that this is a technology that is available. I will continue to stick with it until my tattoo is lightened enough to go over or completely removed (yet to be determined if that is even possible). I am hopeful that the new "RAP" technology will do all that is promised in terms of reducing sessions and price of tattoo removal. *With everything above being said, I am not sure this was all worth it. 1)The pain is significant and recovery time negatively impacts my ability to live my life the way I would like to, active, gym, mountainbiking, playing with my kids, swimming, or even wearing a tie to work. 2)The cost is truly upsetting considering that each session is in excess of the price I paid for the tattoo in the first place. 3)The amount of time this process will take, amount of weeks of recovery essentially will make it about a year and a half of trauma, recovery of two weeks, three to five weeks of feeling better - to normal, then blasting myself with a laser again, repeating the process about 10 times. 4)The results are still uncertain. In order to get to a point where I can tell how my body and the tattoo is responding to the treatment, we have to dial in settings and undergo enough sessions that there is no turning back. 4.b) I've seen results online and nearly always I think (that tattoo didn't look so bad before but certainly looks like a horrible smudgy mess now) and I wonder if that will be me in half a year. Then what? Half a year of a giant smudgy mess on my neck. I can't write any of this without cringing at how, spoiled this all sounds. I got a F'ing tattoo on my neck. I got what I paid for and deserve what comes with it. I love tattoos. well, good tattoos. Part of what makes tattoos special, unique, powerful is not just the difficulties endured to get it, both in pain and money, but that it IS permanent. Most of its "edgyness" comes from this defining attribute that sets it apart from just drawing on myself with washable markers. The fact it can be undone or potentially erased, takes some of the weight out of tattoos, waters down their significance and thus dilutes their power to some extent in my mind. And yet, laser technology means I can try to amend an impulsive decision I made that I know regret. And that last statement sums up why I'm doing this, against the 1-4b I listed above. I have regretted this tattoo pretty soon after I got it. having it affects my wardrobe choices every day and doubly so at work, and the mere possibility that I could get it removed was never far from my mind once I admitted to myself I was unhappy with it. I plan to call for an appointment for my 3rd session tomorrow. Once it is confirmed, I will post some pre-session pictures to compare progress since the last, and then post more photos after this next session. I hope this long post is helpful to all who read it. I realize I made some "philosophical" statements that I certainly don't think are true for everyone but accurately depict how I see things right now. Sincerely, Slarti
  12. I just heard about it last week! Seems you do the audio blast along with laser and multiple passes of laser in one session. Makes me wonder if I’d be able to take it as I can’t even imagine what going for a second and third pass would be like. I would definitely like to try though, the results looked unreal. Like completely gone after two or three sessions.
  13. Yes. The question is how many sessions it will take. apparently there is fine tuning that takes place also, if my artist mixed the black with blue, or with any other colors I understand that could have an impact. My Dr said the main factor is my immune system and how healthy it is. A healthy immune system will clear away the pieces quicker. I think I have a healthy immune system. Also, higher blood flow areas fade quicker too. So I’ve got that going for me.
  14. Yeah, I was cautioned that it might not show much results the first couple sessions while frequency is getting dialed. This is also a newer tattoo I got a year and a half ago. Nitrous was only administered during the procedure and I saw online this is a pain management option for some laser places. I elected to skip it this time and found it easier to deal with the pain with a clear head. I don’t typically read people going on about the pain part and don’t know if I just have lower tolerance or if it’s because of the location but I’ve found this to be more painful than expected and a different pain lasts well past the procedure.
  15. Ok. Second session done. No gas this time, only used numbing cream. I would say it hurt just as bad but was bearable. I know the settings were more intense this time because an hour later and it is swelling up and red all over whereas the first time only had minimal swelling and redness faded rather quickly.