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55 minutes ago, Marie said:

Yeah, I saw Another post somewhere of someone that got a cover-up and theirs kind of did the same thing. So I’m wondering if there’s a lot of tattoo people out there that just really don’t know how to gauge how deep they have to go in terms of a cover-up. Or maybe it has something to do with the old ink mixing with the new ink and it’s causing a reaction I mean who knows 🤷🏻‍♀️. I’m probably gonna have to wait at least three weeks to see probably how the tattoo might turn out just because there’s some really deep pitted areas on mine, and that tissue needs to heal. Like I said, only time will tell and we can just hope for the best. Good news is that you could always get it touched up. Bad news is we really don’t know if it truly was an allergic reaction and if so, then we need to make sure not to put the same ink on it or maybe even get an allergy test before you get your touch up to see possibly what you’re allergic to if it was allergy related. I’m just glad I’m taking these antibiotics to combat any infection while it’s raw and healing. I’ve seen some gnarly tattoo healing before on other people, and also other people that have got some nasty ass infections, and I was absolutely amazed how the tattoos turned out after seeing how fucked up some of them were during the healing stage. So fingers crossed and all we can do is hope for the best. Keep me updated on how it’s going. I’d say if you gets any worse and you’re getting concerned, then just head to the doctor and I’ll hook you up. 

Where are you getting this "old ink mixing with new ink" thing from? Ink put under the skin doesn't "mix." If you put white ink in the same place as you have red ink, it doesn't turn pink. That's not how tattooing works. The simple explanation is most likely the correct one. It's not likely allergies, it's not after care, it's not ink mixing, it's just a heavy hand.  Allergies don't just go away. If you were really allergic to the ink, it wouldn't just heal. That's not how allergies work.

I understand you're looking for answers, but you already have the answer and now there's nothing to do but wait and see how it heals.

Almost certainly heavy handedness. There is nothing about that that looks like an infection. Is it hot, oozing, does it smell bad? When you hear horse hooves, don't look for zebras.

1 hour ago, Marie said:

I’m wondering if I’m having an allergic reaction to the ink and the previous ink that was there. But yea, it’s not hot out oozing a bunch of super painful. Just really tender and it bleeds a little in a few places, but I think that’s because the skin is getting hard and it’s so tight and cracking. I have gone to this person before and haven’t really had any other issues. There was one tattoo that he did and in one tiny spot, he went a little deep and it scabbed pretty bad and got nasty, and it fell out The ink did. I didn’t go get it fixed just because it blends well with the tattoo surprisingly. He did my original one on my arm, so I figured I would go back to him for the cover up. This is my first cover up so I don’t know what to expect and I also didn’t even didn’t think about a possible reaction to the previous that tattoo. I do know the previous tattoo and some parts it would become a little raised and itch a litttle, and it was a nine year old tattoo. 

You are SERIOUSLY overthinking this. The problem is that the tattooer did an apocalyptically bad job. It's extremely unlikely that there is any kind of reaction going on here, let alone a reaction to the previous tattoo or ink allergy. If you look in the medical literature, tattoo allergies are extremely rare. Yes, some people don't react to some colors, but that's not an actual allergy. As I've previously said, someone's tattoo itches as it heals and they tell everyone it's an ink allergy.

Have an adult beverage, an unprescribed pharmaceutical, or do some yoga. Relax and let it heal. I've seen people so upset about something like this that they can't wait and go out and make it worse looking for a quick solution, Your body needs to heal ... period.

At this point I'd just keep it clean. Unless it gets hot, really oozing, extremely painful, I'd just take the antibiotics and wait. As I said before, that's going to be a long heal.

How did you find that tattooer?

That’s the worst I’ve ever seen. I think you just need to tough it out. That’s going to take a long time to heal. Just have patience and don’t let anyone talk you into working on it until it’s fully healed. That could take months.

what is it seeping? Blood, pus, color?

If its not red and it's not hot and it's not oozing and it doesn't smell bad, it's probably not infected, so no need to freak out about that. It's going to be gooey until you let it dry out. I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell you what YOU should do, but I wouldn't put anything else on it until it heals.

And don't blame color because your artist worked the sh!t out of your skin. I wouldn't ever go back there. That's practically malpractice. There is NO reason to work your skin like that.

As @SStu said, let it sit for 6-8 weeks and see where you're at.

I'd leave them as is. Those are nice for 30 years old.

3 hours ago, Blue Tattoo said:

Interesting. I do think the pain aspect is going to be unique for all individuals and that this article was speaking in very broad terms. For example you said the back of your leg didn't hurt and mine felt like an electric shock.  

 

Yes, there are individual differences, but there are more similarities. I think I have a high pain tolerance. In general though, thin, delicate skin is going to be more sensitive so the article got it backwards. Anyone with a lot of tattoos experience would know that. I just pointed out two things. If I went through the entire article, I could have found 15-20. They also said that many people are allergic to red ink. People saying this is one of my pet peeves. Having a reaction is not the same thing as having an allergy. Some people have a harder time healing red ink, but actual documented ink allergies are extremely rare. Some newbie's tattoo itches and they think they have an allergy.

I see this more and more often on the internet - people writing articles about something that they have absolutely no first hand knowledge about. What am I going to learn about tattoos from someone who doesn't know anything about tattoos? If you don't know anything, you have no basis for judging your background material.

It reads like something that someone who knows nothing about tattoos wrote by googling a lot of different topics. Two examples - inner arm hurts LESS than the outer arm - not that I’ve ever heard or experienced. Yellow and orange fade faster on pale skin - again, not what I’ve heard or experienced. I saw many, many other examples of just plain wrong information.

As my artist says, “Just because it hurts is no reason to not get a tattoo.”

Absolutely, as long as you’re not sharing them to sell something.

I think most of us only get irritated when some dick head’s first post is selling his shitty product. This isn’t eBay.

Art is not an exact science, skin is not a consistent medium. It means that is their estimate. There are a lot of things that could change that - your skin might not take the ink well, you may not sit well, he might be moving slower than usual.

1 hour ago, mhm2020 said:

I don’t need to be a moderator or a frequent poster in order to call out rude behavior, do I? If you want to get down to brass tacks, the forum rules do state this is supposed to be a positive and helpful environment and your comment wasn’t either of those things. 
 

But thanks for the suggestion, I’ll definitely be clicking the ignore button. 

How will I ever get over this???? Boo hoo me!

The artist that covers it will sketch it. Don’t waste time or money on someone else. Get someone good, that’s really dark and won’t be easy to cover. Make sure you see before and after examples their work. You may need to consider a few laser sessions first.

Awesome. Good things come to those who wait!

48 minutes ago, Blue Tattoo said:

I just had my second tattoo, a band around my calf. I knew the shin was going to be sensitive, but was surprised how much the back of my leg hurt.  It felt like he was putting the needle into a nerve, and felt almost like an electrical shock. I was worried I was going to jerk my leg, I really had to concentrate to keep still.

I thought about getting high before hand. Didn't think about a beer, lol.

Don’t drink alcohol, it thins the blood which is not good when getting tattooed. I didn’t really have any issues with pain on the back of my legs, but some people find it very painful.

5 minutes ago, Cor5266 said:

wow cupcake you SURE ARE making a WHOLE LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS there aren't you AND suffer from reading comprehension as well!?
lierallay from my first post - YO U KNOW the part you seemed to have SKIPPED!!!!!


"talked and texted before you went, sent references of your own and pics of similar kind of work the artist did. "
   

OH and HOW the FOOG would "research" even prevent this from happening in your delusional world?  Please enlighten how one "researches" the prevention of asking for a corvette and the guy deciding to tattoo not a bad corvette but a pinto?   

The new guy Being an ass hole to the long timers is not a good way to get help. We’re trying to educate you, you are trying to remain ignorant. You win!

7 hours ago, Cor5266 said:

so I'm new here and I am not sure why I cant start a new thread but this is pretty much down the line of what I was going to ask, BUT far worse.

what if you went to your tattoo artist ( this is just an example, but on point) talked and texted before you went, sent references of your own and pics of similar kind of work the artist did. 
 Say you wanted a picture of Gandolf from lord of the rings and said yea give you artistic freedom to do what will look cool as long as it's Gandolf

and the guy tattooed an Orc on you!?   

If something this ridiculous happened, then you didn't research your artist very well and that's on YOU. This is why you don't just walk into the first shop you see, grab the first person you see there with a tattoo machine and yell "INK ME!!!!"

If you do your homework, that would NEVER happen.

16 hours ago, Cb0606 said:

So I guess I figured ...

There's your mistake. Although I agree that the tattoo artist should communicate thoroughly, if you are new to tattoos, you need to ask the questions. "How many hours will this take" is a pretty basic question. He should be able to give you a ball park estimate. It's your skin and your money, you should be informed up front, if that's important to you. My artist never gives me estimates because we change things and usually add things as we go along. Each of my sleeves (with chest panel) were around 50 hours.

How long since you got the original piece? Without that information, it's hard to tell if it's too dark.

As far as comparing a drawing to what goes on your skin, you can't. It's dark, but too dark?  Depends on how long you've had it.

As far as going over budget - didn't he give you an estimate? If he said he'd be 4 hours and took 10, then you've got a legitimate complaint. If you didn't ask how many hours the piece would take, that's on you. Some tattooers are just slow.

You said, "I found a shop that does alot of what I like." Well, a SHOP doesn't tattoo you. Did you look at the specific person doing the tattoos before you committed? I mean did you look at ALL of his work that he has posted? If not, you should have. If you did, does yours look darker that what you saw?

It sounds like you and the artist didn't do a very good job of communicating. 

4-6 weeks to heal. I'd let it heal before you do anything else.

Wavy lines of different weights and circles not round and not uniform? That's going to look like a scratcher did it. Probably about one in one hundred thousand will actually know what you're trying to accomplish. BUT, it's your skin.

6 minutes ago, AlH said:

Did the problem go away?

 

I hope so, it was 3 1/2 years ago!

The hood is the same tone as the  cloak, and the wings, and the sword and the skin. Very monotonal. And the top of the sword gets lost in the face and whatever is going on there. I’d be interested to see how it looks when it’s healed.

You already have a thread on this topic.

I'll start by saying I'm not a fan of script, but unless you have pink script with flowers and unicorns, I don't think there is a masculine vs. feminine script. 

I'll also throw out there that having your hands tattooed is a big step. Yes, tattoos have become way more accepted today, but hand tattoos are still pretty out there. Also, the skin on the side of your hands is thin and so will be prone to blowouts. Make sure you get someone really good that knows what they are doing. It's really hard to do perfect script; there is no room for error. Too many people think script is simple and get the local hack to do it.

Good luck