Dan S

From one newbie to another, gruessle!

Sweet...Colella did a nice rack there for a city kid!

Yup, that's one'a mine. He turned me on to this site, actually. So, you gonna put up the work you've got or what?!

A wierd cover-up question... I have quite a few covered-up "jailhouse" tattoos, and whenever I get a skeeter-bite that hits one of the old, buried ink lines, the entire OLD tattoo blows up. You can see it perfectly through the covering work, looks like it was scarified on. Lasts anywhere between an hour and a day. No big deal, just wondering if anyone else has had/seen that kind of reaction, and what would cause it.

My last work was done in four sessions, the shortest one was five hours, and the longest was six and a half. Ouch. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that armpits hurt like a mofo.

What can I say, normally I would have. I had just gotten divorced, and REALLY wanted that name covered up. Started out okay, but as the guy dug deeper and deeper, I realized I had gotten a shit sandwich, but by then, hey-not much I can do but hope it heals decently. MY bad.

No, don't plan on it...still have two others I did back then, they are on my knees. That was great fun! All the rest of the jailhouse stuff I had has been covered-got some pretty serious clouds of black!

I just tell 'em the truth...usually "it's not to my taste, but if it makes you happy, kool". And as far as bad work being the artists fault, sometimes! I went into a shop in Rockford, Illinois, I won't say the name, but it's on State Street, right downtown. IT was just a spu-o-the-monet gig, I was with my new Lady, and wanted a name in a scroll covered. Old, old ink. Guy looks at it, no problem, and proceeds to mutilate the shit out if it. I finally ask him if he's drilling for oil or what. Took, literally, two months to heal, and most of the color bled right back out of it, leaving the original wording visible underneath. Ah well-his fault for scratching it, and my fault for going to a tattooist I didn't know.

Lousy pic, doesn't do justice to some beautiful knot-work by Miles Maniaci, then of Chicago Tattooing Co.

I was really trying not to...

Sweet piece

Very kool. Don't know what it meant for you, but around here, from way back when, the cross with two dots, or lines, between the crossbar and the top of the upright, meant you smoked dope. It could also mean, at least in Chicago, that you "rode under the two", a gang thang. Three dots, or lines, was a later invention, and meant you "rode under the three"...only ever saw bangers with that version, but hey-I know it's different all over!

Damn...haven't even heard it CALLED a PAchuco cross in more than a few years! How many dots? I had one myself, it got lost in the mix somewhere, covered many moons ago.

Man...that is some serious commitment right there! Interesting how the old work comes up when the black is broken up...that hand-spiked stuff goes deep. I wish you every success, and hope your new piece is everything you want it to be. I'll be checking this thread often to see your progress. As a side note, I was in Seattle a few years back, and stopped in a shop downtown, just browsing. Brazilian tattooer was working there, ran a big rap on me about tattooing over my existing work with white and re-doing it. Anyone ever heard of or tried this? I wouldn't want to do it, but had never heard of it and was curious.

Tattoos on tattoos-life is good.

@ Duffa...man, some very kool old stuff! Definitely not PC!!!

And there's segregation all over the world. Go to Asia, hell, just go on down into Mexico. I isn't something those "evil white masters" invented. But hey, whatever you want to believe. As I said, I'm not her to argue it.

Bro, I ain't here to argify politrix, so I'ma just go with this last thought... Who defines what racism is? Viva la Raza...Latino Pride, a good thing. Black Power...Black Pride, a good thing. White Pride...oh man, EVIL RACISM!!!

I kinda doubt we'll EVER reach that "one race" stage, but hey, if we do, all the better. what I meant by being proud of your heritage isn't so much about being proud of your skin collor, or your hair color, or how many fingers you've managed to retain "(congrats, tho'!) as it is about being proud of who you are, where you come from, the whole drill. I'm proud of my families history, proud of my peoples history, and I guess I would be whether they were White, Black, or Purple! Mind you, note that I said I'm proud of my, etc., not "I hate these other poeple". Totally different thing.

Been riding about as long as I been getting tattoos...suppose there's some correlation?!?!?!?!? Started out with a 47 Knuckle, radical chop West Coast style, no one bothered to tell me that my first bike was sposed to be a Yapzuki 50, and ended up with my 70 FLH that I've been riding since 1977.

First things first. 14/88 The 14 Words. "We must secure the existence of our People, and a future for White children." As another poster noted, the 88 refers to HH, or "Heil Hitler". While the Hakenkreuz is all of the things talked about here, ancient symbol of the Aryans, Buddhists, Amerinds, et al, as well as the symbol fo the NSDAP, it has also been used in reaction to racist imagery created by Blacks and Latinos and directed against Whites. For instance, it is racist to have the Hakenkreuz (Swastika) tattooed on you. IT is NOT racist to have the Master, or a Cholo tattoed on you, or even a "Viva la Raza" tattoo if you are Latino. It is NOT racist to have the clenched fist tattooed on you if you are Black, or to have "Black Power", or the "African flag" tattooed on you. Bullshit. Everyone in the world is racist to some extent, and everyone SHOULD be proud of their heritage. The avatar on my account here is a pic of a shield-decoration excavated in what is now northern Germany, and dating from about 900 A.D. Is it racist? Guess I'm in trouble if it is, cause I've got it tattooed on my shoulder. As a guest in Cook County Jail in 1973, I got so damn pissed off about Whites being jacked-around by Blacks who accused them of being racist as they were mobbing them ten on one, that I tattooed the Hakenkreuz on one knee and the Iron Cross on the other. Since we wore knee-length cutoffs, they were real visible. Anytime anyone asked, I told them it stood for White Pride and White Power. Funny thing is, the Black guys I was locked-down with understood that, and they were good with it. I have had a few scraps over the years, but I've found that it's more the self-hating Whites that get lathered about that crap than the Blacks. Am I a racist? No. It's ridiculous to hate someone simply because of the color of their skin. I judge everyone by their actions. Am I proud of being White? Hell yes. Why shouldn't I be? Let's face it, kids...Whites are the minority. The population of the world is about 9% White, and falling. Conclusions? Well, if someone feels strongly enough about his beliefs, whatever they are, to tattoo a symbol that many find hateful on himself, then good on him. We should ALL have that kind of force of conviction. .02

Whoa...some seriously serious ways to care for a tattoo! Okay...I've got tattoos that are around 30-35 years old, and still look pretty damn good, color is bright, lines are crisp, all like that. I'm looking at a cover-up on my left forearm that Dale Grande did in 1984, and it looks about good as new. The main color is a light purple, and we were both a bit worried that it might fade-out with time. Hasn't happened. So here is the aftercare recommended at the time: Leave the bandage on overnight, then remove and shower. Use unscented lotion sparingly to keep the tattoo from drying out. Don't pick the scabs. Period. Actually, at the time I got that cover-up, the hot ticket for tattoo healing was, believe it or not, Preparation H. Keeps the tat a little moist, and eliminates the swelling. When I got the outlining done for my sleeve, I flew to Mexico the next morning, way the hell up in the mountains, and my arm didn't appreciate the sudden change from -10F to 100F...swole up like a balloon. Hit the local Pharmacia, got some Preparation H, and within an hour all was well again. I've never used any of the new stuff, got my last work done a year ago, and just used plain old Dial to shower with, and Bacitracyn to keep it from getting dry enoug to crack. Still seems to work. So whatever works for you! Just remember, you don't have to re-invent the wheel every time you get ink done. (and make sure it's a 13 and not a 31)

I e-mailed back-n-forth with him the other day, he said that they are working on putting together a fundraiser. Will post any details I hear.

I guess with tattooing being so hip n all, you can proly get volunteers to practice on now, and spare the poor grapefruits!

Sounds like you're off to a good start. So many people "back into" tattooing, learning the mechanics of it without having the art skills to use those mechanics, that it's good to hear of someone getting the art psrt donw first! Patience, patience, and lotsa grapefruits!