Ursula

I just remembered something I heard at the shop about a year ago.

This was in Toronto.

I was talking with my friend and his client, who pretty much has sleeves. They are not offensive tattoos, just regular stuff. He told me he has recently been hired for some type of construction related hands on job. Went to the interview in a long sleeve button down shirt, like most people would. Was immediately hired. Shows up on the job site a couple days later ready to work in a t-shirt and work pants. The guy hired him took one look, said "what the fuck is that SHIT!" The guy was confused thought he had something on his shirt, then realized oh, my tattoos. The boss flipped out asking why he hadn't told him about his tattoos and fired him.

The guy wasn't super mad because he's an adult and understands how people are, but he was pretty surprised since he wasn't really going to be seen by anyone other than other workers on the site.

My friend Jet just posted this article on Facebook.....

"Mobile phone maker Nokia is seeking a US patent for tattoos that vibrate to let people know when they have calls on their mobile phones.

Technology laid out in a patent application available online on Wednesday in the US would enable tattoos to receive magnetic waves emitted by mobile phones.

Waves would trigger tattoos to generate "perceivable stimulus" to alert them to calls, messages, or batteries running low.

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"The perceivable stimulus may comprise vibration, a vibration on the image on a user's skin, for example," according to the application filed with the US Patent Office late last year.

The application described an ink enhanced with magnetic compounds used to make visible or invisible images "attached to the skin".

Sensations caused by tattoos, permanent or temporary, could be customised depending on the content, suggesting vibrations could vary in intensity and timing depending on who was calling or whether it was a text message.

"The magnetic field, when detected by the apparatus, will cause a different effect based on its characteristics," the patent application read.

"For example, the magnetic field may cause vibration of one short pulse, multiple short pulses, few long pulses, mixture of short and long pulses, strong pulses, weak pulses, and so on."

People would be able to recharge tattoos using strong magnets, according to the application.

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Being asked to leave a job that you were not getting paid for is a gift.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yes!

I don't have one, but that's a rad choice for one! And a good shop to get it at!

As far as I know, at least at the American Apparel in Toronto, they have never hired anyone with visible tattoos. In fact they make a point of not hiring people with tattoos there and have since it opened on Queen St. They take a polaroid of you when you apply and the hiring of sales staff in store is largely based on appearance and looking like and American Apparel ad in the flesh.

Anyways, I agree with Stewart, and have felt that way for a long time.

It's unfortunate that people don't accept other people for a variety of reasons including having tattoos, but any adult should be able to recognize that in society, realize it's not changing any time soon, and then make the choice about how far you want to stand out from the crowd.

Also, I just found out if you play a lot, you get more colours!

I am connected to mine through Facebook, so I think my user name is Ursula Thomson but it might be ThreadWizard I'm not sure...

Also, the fucking winner for life at this game has to be Tomas Garcia. You guys need to all get instagram and go look at his screen captures.

Only difference is getting tattoos isn't a hobby. You can't just decide one day you don't wanna do it anymore and sell your old tatts for a profit.

Sorry but you kinda sound like a dick and I'll be surprised if the tattoo you end up posting is any good.

Like the others said I don't get the whole thing where you said your wife will be pissed cause you could be feeding the kids with the money, and then later you say you make tons of money. Just pay for a fucking good tattoo that you won't regret forever.

Anyways.. Whatever.. Over it..

Never mind, you're in Oklahoma hahaha I thought you were in Cali for some reason ;)

The main large image on my back was done by one artist. I know you've seen the almost complete photos in the back piece thread. I am planning on getting some other tattoos around it by other people to fill out the space. Probably roses, each one from someone else. Or something along those lines. Like the others said just make sure you have a good idea of what you're doing before you start ! Oh, and post pics for us ;)

How amazing would it be to have a black heart back piece ! Get one from each, Scott, Tim, Rassier and Juan! Then get Cody and Nick to do some bad ass filler like they learned at Inksmith !

Heading to Montreal tommorrow so I thought I'd bring this thread back.

I've got Wednesday afternoon to kill.

Thursday morning is my immigration interview, then Thursday afternoon I've got to kill.

So in addition to old Montreal, and poutine which I am well familiar with, what else is there?

Good shops to visit?

Galleries? Museums ?

Do you live there and like to drink beer in the mid afternoon?

Blah blah blah blah blah blah get a tattoo or fucking don't already.

@slayer9019 you don't want a tattoo, you want a "tattoo" hahaha genius

@Blank how can your wife get pissed about a $200 tattoo and not a $2000 hipster bike?

My father has had tattoos since before I was born so I really can't remember since I was probably less than a day old haha. I never had some defineing moment like that. Mine would be more the first time I remember being exposed to good tattoos which was less than a decade ago.

Wes Dix at TCB tattoo and Mike Bruce at Inksmith and Rogers

@Blank you're starting to sound more and more and more like the customer everyone can't stand.

Quit posting and GO TO A TATTOO SHOP

Then come back and tell is what happened if you want.

At this point you're not going to find out anything new without going into a shop.

As far as the guy who charges $200 an hour and has a two month wait VS the $70 an hour walk in guy. I shouldn't have to explain this because it seems obvious to me but the $200 an hour, booked till the moon guy is probably a much better tattooer than the other one.

If driving around all day to find someone competent to do the work is too much of a hassle, you don't need to be getting tattoos. Put the $200 you plan on spending towards a nice day out with your family.

Most shops have a bad review online if you look for it.

That's the thing with online reviews, while useful a lot of times there's always those people out there who are determined to have an awful experience no matter how hard you try to please them.

If you like the work go talk to them and see what's up.

I mean I knew either Shane or Rick was gonna go at some point. I was still surprised though when it did happen. I'm looking forward to the next episode.

@living4today where in FL do you live? I'm about to move back to Jacksonville in a couple weeks if all goes well with immigration.

I don't really get what you mean.. I don't understand how someone could draw an capital A or Y backwards since they are symmetrical. Do you mean people putting the flourish coming off the wrong end? Or putting the double line (tradition tattoo style) on the wrong side?

actually gouge is right, you should put the $200 or whatever amount it ends up being towards some new tattoos! I guess that is if you plan on having lots of tattoos and not just the one...

what town are you in?

I'm also a small town ontarian. I live in brighton about 2 hours east of TO. I've known many people who started in small towns north of the city who now work in the city

$200 where I'm from will get you about a palm or baseball sized tattoo, maybe a little larger depending on the design/detail.

At the same time there's places that will charge $200 for an entire days work. Point being, good work costs more. Prices are 100% dependant on who's doing the tattoo. It's really really hard to say without seeing what you want and without knowing even what you might want as a design.

To answer your question straight forward though, no $200 is not a lot for a shoulder sized tattoo on a larger sized man. To me when you say shoulder I'm imagining the top of your arm. Is that where you mean? Or do you mean the top of your back behind/beside your arm?

I have the top shoulder part of both my arms done. One of the tattoos cost me I think $150 and the other was I think $200, they were done by Richard Stell and Eli Quinters. Both those guys are friends so I did get a bit of a price deal. I am also pretty small and the tattoos are maybe 6x6.

Like everyone else said though, the more you can save towards the tattoo, the bigger, better tattoo you'll be able to get. If I was you, I'd wait till I had at least $300. Also keep in mind although it's not necessary to tip the artist, it's always a nice thing to do if you're happy with the work. On a $300 tattoo, personally I'd want to tip about $50-$75.

Whatever you do end up doing, please please please please do not try to call the shop and get a quite over the phone.

1. yes it is more difficult, especially if the original tattoo is black or another dark colour. The tattooer you end up choosing will be able to advise you on the cover-up-ability of the tattoo you have.

2. It sounds like the guy you're referring to is an asshole. Designing custom artwork for clients is one of the main parts of being a tattooer. It's not totally out of control to ask for a deposit on large artwork (for example a back piece). This is so that when you never come back they won't have wasted their week designing your large scale tattoo. Any tattooer worth a shit should have zero problem designing your tattoo. If they aren't super busy it's not unreasonable for them to have a drawing to show you within a week or so. Like I said they may want a deposit of usually $40-60 which should go towards to the total cost of the tattoo. I do not recommend having a non-tattooer design your tattoo. They don't know what will work and what won't, especially with a cover up.

3. Generally tattoos on arms and legs cost less than having the same design done of the chest, stomach or ribs. This is because it ends up taking longer due to the tricky area and generally the pain level is a lot higher and causes the client to want more breaks. Sounds like you're thinking of your shoulder though so it should be a fairly easy area to tattoo. As far as a realistic eagle vs. and old school one, both can be done quickly, and both can be dragged out into super long sessions. It's really hard to say without looking at an actual drawing, but you are correct, the bigger and more detail, the longer and more expensive.

4. At the shops I am familiar with, $200 with get you about a palm sized tattoo, maybe a little larger. What you are describing would fit into that budget or close to it, that is assuming you don't have gigantic biceps and the tattoo getting covered is fairly small. Keep in mind when covering a tattoo you will have to get a much larger one over top. So look at your tattoo and then imagine one 2-3 times the size to cover it.

My advise since you live in California is to check out the LST Preferred Professionals list. There are sooooo many amazing, and I really mean amazing, tattooers in Cali. Pick out some that you like and go visit their shop, chat with whoever's there about the tattoo you want and see what they think. Ask them for a quote and be up front about your budget so they know what you're working with. There will be a moment when you go into a shop and realize that 'this is the place' and 'that's the tattooer'.

Here's a link to the Preferred Vendor list I mentioned : http://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/forum/member-referrals/43-lst-preferred-tattoo-professionals.html

Also I'm sure that the guys who run the site would always be happy to help you out, they can be found at BlackHeart Tattoo in San Francisco

that spider is fuckin tough hahaha.