JAllen

There's too much to type to explain the confusion over the mythology. Its not about tattooing being a subculture. Its about the various subcultures that get tattoos. You've had military, hot rod/kustom culture, bikers, punkers, greasers, juggalos, skinheads, thugs, etc.

Now that includes people who are just interested in tattoos as being the common thing. Usually in the other social groups or subcultures, you can see a trend of common interests. So now I think people are overly trying to impose ideas on other groups because of their own internal struggle to find a common interest across the board with other tattooed folks in a different social class or subculture. Even when there is overlap or other common interests among like minded individuals, it doesn't and shouldn't dictate an assimilation of all thoughts.

Someone who just wants a mark on their body won't share the same concern or interest as someone who wants a full body suit so they may not want to pay a reasonable price or an expensive price to just satisfy their desire. Educate the people who genuinely want to know. Let folks get bad tattoos if they want. It used to be that if you saw someone with a certain type of tattoo it was sometimes a form of communication. The style the content etc. So if I see someone with a cool tattoo that I like I might ask them who did it and if I just see someone who has lots of tattoos I might not even look twice. Because tattoos alone aren't what's going to signal me to a like minded person. So let's not try so hard to convert the unwilling. We need clear clues as to the message these folks are trying to send.

I say this as simply observing for the last 20+ years of getting tattooed and the last 10 of doing them.

There's still a good chance I'm confused or just full of shit but that's what I've noticed.

It just sounds like this dudes hot girlfriend went and got tattooed with out him.

If you love movies that make absolutely no fucking sense at all, watch this movie. I was lucky enough to find it in a used-VHS bin a few years ago at Book Nook in Atlanta...it was in pretty good condition given the condition of the other movies in the bin. It is one of my most treasured VHS finds.

Trailer:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqSe8y6Oz14

I aint heard anybody talk about the book nook in over a decade. Rad.

Murder By Death

Austin Lucas

Devotchka

Tarentella

Jay Munly

Willard Grant Conspiracy

Edit: might sound like an obvious one but Chuck Ragan's solo stuff is superb as well.

So long as none of that "new-grass" gets posted.

Blanche

Slim Cessna's Auto Club (see them live if you ever have the chance...for real.)

16 horsepower

Wovenhand

Danny Barnes (one of the best banjo players ever)

He was also in a band called Bad Livers

Steve Earle

Bruce Springsteen's nebraska and ghost of tom joad.

Whiskeytown

Tarnation

Will Johnson

Jason Isbell

Uncle Tupelo

Gillian Welch

Neko Case

Pine Valley Cosmonauts

Giant Sand

Calexico

These are all real bluegrass:

Hylo Brown (sang for flatt and scruggs)

Reno and Smiley

The Osborne Brothers

Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper

Roscoe Holcomb

Jimmy Martin

Doc Watson (not technically bluegrass but mountain music).

Jim and Jennie and the Pinetops

I've got loads more but....

Its the approach that's off putting. Not here nor on the survey site is it stated with any clarity or purpose what the intentions of the study will be. Its a study for a univsersity paper, not a middle school report.

My name is Dan... I like tattoos and drinking beer.

Oh, I'm back! Sorry for the long hiatus... Life got busy, but here I am. What's new?

You are not forgotten

working on more flash....

http://youtu.be/tirW0DtxYDI

Chris trevino

Edited

I was hoping for bearded tattooed women when I saw this.

here's stuff I did over the past week, the one flash sheet is all nkc stencil copies.

Excellent username choice.

and best ink fails again... because a tattooer tattooed Ganesh on a woman's arm but called it a "buddhist elephant". WTF

Well I don't doubt that the show is lame and shouldn't be watched and that the terminology is a little broad but the image of ganesha shows up as Ganapati and

Vinayaka tantric buddhism. Or somethin like that, haha.

I think he's a poser. Haha, but I don't like any of the other pop mainstream stuff either so it doesn't sound ground breaking to me.

I also really need to check out this EL-P and Killer Mike record. Everyone I've heard mention it raves about it.

If you do, I doubt you'll be able to listen to kanye stuff anymore. El-p has been relentlessly producing some of the best music for the last decade. Check out cannibal ox and some of vast aire's solo stuff too. He's an innovative lyricist.

here's some stuff I painted yesterday:

Forgot to mention Hour of 13 in earlier posts. Played them a bunch too.

@Graeme @JAllen If you dig that retroey psychey proggey sound , check out Wolf People.

Will do! Thanks!

Yeah, I like all that stuff so Blood Ceremony is totally in my area of interest. I'll check out that second album to begin with I think and give it an honest listen.

I've been meaning to check out Jex Thoth because I really like what she did with Sabbath Assembly. If you haven't heard them, check them out. I only have the first album but it's really cool retro-y psych with her on vocals. They're playing hymns from the Process Church's hymn book. Integrity it isn't.

In that vein too, I really love The Devil's Blood though they are sadly no more.

I want that sabbath assembly stuff, I've only gotten to hear it via youtube. Same goes for the totem stuff she did.

I've listened to the devils blood a few times, sometimes I find that I like it and other times I can't seem to get into it. I think its mainly the gal's vocals that put me off a first. I'm sure if I get to give it a proper listen of a whole album that won't be an issue.

Edit- ok just played a couple tracks and I don't know why I ever didn't like them. Haha

I saw Blood Ceremony opening for Pagan Altar about three years ago and I really wasn't into them, but I always hear people who I trust about music talking about them. I should give them another listen.

This thread made me listen to Red House Painters. I forget that I really like them.

Well here's what I'll say about blood ceremony, the flute can be off-putting to lots of folks. The second album I like even a bit more than the first one. I was listening to a lot of real retro sounding stuff like orchid, witchcraft and the early pentagram stuff so it fit real nice into a set with those.

I'd say yo check out jex thoth also.

Carcass, deltron, blame one, wolf people, tech itch, blood ceremony, yeahyeahyeahs , Mogwai, Steve mason, nin, ministry, amorphous androgynous , jello Biafra, kverlertak, all awesome it's been a great music year. Honourable mentions also go to black sabbath, rush , and Motörhead too!

I played them first 2 blood ceremony albums a bunch this year as well. Haven't gotten the new one yet. Also nice to know someone else has heard of amorphous androgynous. Haha

When I saw Mark earlier this year he said "this isn't fucking Bauhaus, I'm not playing 20 year old music"

I can understand how he feels. He can play whatever he wants live, but he can't stop me from playing 20 year old records.