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Thanks guys. You are all right - and I knew that already, but the reinforcement is good. I appreciate the love, all! Thanks!
- Mark Bee, TrixieFaux and Fala
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hey guys. haven't read through this entire thread. just had a really weird (and hurtful) experience with someone I have been intimately involved with for four years. We dated for a year and then broke up, but we have been best friends for the last three. (both of us have dated other people in this time and blah blah, tho have spent the majority of our time with each other.)
Because this is someone I spend 75% of every day with - and have for the last four years - and our relationship seemed to have changed over the last few months - I said "hey, I like you as more than a friend again, want to go out sometime?" which led, hours later, to "I could never marry you because your tattoos aging would be a problem for me".
I feel like this is more of a cop out than anything ("it's not you, it's your tattoos!"), but it doesn't really matter in the long run. And obvs I was talking about a date and not marriage but that's where he ended up. (I mean, fair enough, if you know it will never work because of something unchangeable...)
Can I just say: ouch, that's cold, that hurt more than anything he could have said, unless he told me something like my freckles might disgust him as they aged.
It feels like a weird sort of body shaming?
I'm in shock. It really hurts. I'm kind of trying to dial down why, because I know some people don't like tattoos and that's just an innate thing, the same way we all like tattoos, but he's never mentioned anything like that to me. For the record, I def had tattoos four years ago when we dated. Sure, I have more now. And he's been here this whole time as they have grown and grown and grown. Never said a word (nor would he have any reason to, I guess, other than discussing tattoo coverage WHICH I DO ALL THE TIME)
I have never felt like my tattoos were a barrier to marriage or a long term relationship, though that is what society told me growing up, and that's what my mom said when i got my first visible one ("what about your wedding day?!"). And this guy who has been my BFF for years....certainly had many qualities that I would look for in a long term partner...never would i have thought my tattoos would be a barrier to that.
I can see that it's a cop out. At 80 someone's gonna look 80 regardless.
Anyway. Ouch. Anybody here with plainskin partners who might want to chip in? Why does the tattoo thing sting so much more than the actual 'rejection'?
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Horitoshi family has you pull your knees up to your chest to really get that stretch and get in there when the time comes. Cannonball style!
- Iwar, Illiad86, Michaelshane and 8 others
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Nothing wrong with bactine. It's a staple and makes sense for all parties involved.
yeah, definitely. i could sit better for him and he could work larger un-interrupted stretches!
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Damn you, @beez. I already have a huge snake on my back, but now I'm jealous of yours. Very jealous.
Hogg, your snake may or may not have ended up in my reference pile ;). I'm flattered!
@beez that is beyond cool. Also: 4 hours...howwww??!Polliwog - I have no idea how in the HELL he did that in four hours. Even though I was there for it I can barely believe it. He said that since he had drawn and colored the snake completely already on a picture of my back, and then he drew it again on me in marker before we started, that because he had drawn it and colored it in he knew exactly where to go and that's why it was so fast. <throws up hands> he's a mad genius! I have never been tattooed by anybody who is particularly slow, either! But the other half of my back definitely took multiple sessions of AT LEAST 4 hours each, so this was soo fast!
The one thing that may have helped was that he used bactine after the first 1.5 hours, and the lidocaine in bactine kept me nice and numb. But once I was numb he went for it and started digging in there - I could DEFINITELY tell I was being worked on. I don't know if I could have handled it without the numbing.
On numbing: I used to be sort of anti-numbing, but I got numbed for the last 90 min of the eagle/dragon thigh piece and then for this, and I don't feel like I really missed out on the tattoo experience. I was definitely there for all of it! And the numbing may have removed the "hot fire" element of it, but not the continuously working over chopped up skin feeling. So that's it!
@cltattooing that hector fong piece is sick!
- bongsau, hogg, cltattooing and 2 others
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@SeeSea i spend a lot of time in coffee shops and parks when traveling for tattoos (in SF)!! the only thing i would caution is to make sure you know exactly where you're going when the tattoo is done. My post-tattoo brain gets spacier and spacier each tattoo it seems - and I have a helluva time getting anywhere. So if I don't have a set point of where I am going next, I'm in all sorts of trouble.
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Keep it clean and wrapped and you're good. Those back to back appointments can be rough! Ibuprofen helps keep the swelling in check. Good luck and let's see pics!
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Ps: I'm at the beach now (smug)
LOL love it :p
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Ouch! Happening now.
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You getting work done in Seattle? A donde?
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Did he say when and where he will be in Canada?
Edmonton! For 1 day! That's all I know! He is going to Arizona after this and then Canada. I know that he told me when, I just can't remember!!!! I'm so sorry - tattoo brain made me spacey.
I think today is his last day at DC - maybe give them a call and find out? I said "I know someone in Canada (from the internet) who wants to get tattooed by you," and he said that wherever he's going, the shop owner said there were a couple of people who wanted to talk to him about his next visit there.
He's gonna be in AZ for a few days so you might try hitting him up on instagram or something to see exactly where he's gonna be.
@ironchef you FLATTER me!
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@bongsau - Shad is super nice, and SO FAST! We got that snake done in 4 HOURS! 4!!!! Outline, shading, color!!! He does use bactine, as you mentioned, and that helps so much. He said he is going to be up in Canada, so I hope you get in to see him!
This was a really painful session, all in all. The upper back is like hot fire. Not fun! I am so stoked to get to this point in my tattoo, though, and I can't wait to continue the collaboration. We were talking about a dragon on the rest of the back of my legs looking up at the snakes. !!!!
Anyway, for those who might have missed it on IG, here is my new snake!
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im flying to la to start my back with bryan burk next week, appointment got pushed back a couple times, but finally after hundreds of wasted airline tickets were doing it haha. hes flying out that night so my appointment got moved to 10am. oof. going to be dead tired and after have no where to go until my friend gets off work at 8pm hahah
You must be stoked! We will all be excited to see. I've had a few sessions where after I have nowhere to go for hours. Usually I walk in a daze...post tattoo I am very spacey and feel pretty weird, so have wandered into some weird shit. Or wandered weirdly into perfectly normal scenarios.
Usually I smoke a cigarette (though I am normally a non-smoker) and have an espresso, (check out LST on my phone) and then wander in the right direction and everything's fine. It's weird, imho, to have the experience of getting something like a back piece started and then have no one to download it to immediately!
Hopefully that's a walkable area of LA? Lol :p
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Li'l Horitoshi frog by Junii :)
Very hard angle to photo!
- abeukeveld, Graeme and marley mission
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@polliwog haven't been to the east coast in years, but did get my second tattoo in northampton. Some guy named chuck? don't remember the shop. (I realize it's 2 hours north and west of newton, but what the hell :p).
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@polliwog you're in MA right? winter skin!!! always slows my roll. Where in mass are you?
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@polliwog Hmm. If the bumps are tender or hot at all, definitely get them checked out. I thought you might be earlier in your heal - wish I had a better answer for you. Good luck!
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@polliwog how far into healing are you? Without fail, every weird thing I've been worried about when healing a tattoo has resolved itself on its own without anyone looking at it - that said, just having someone tell you that it's okay might be the medicine you need to make it go away!
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@polliwog - Oh, wow, thank you! I've written about it a few different times, let me see if I can find and link to them/do a little write up when I have a bit more time. I know we all love talking about our tattoos here :))))
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Relevant to the discussion! Read the commentary!
TED-Ed Does Tattoo History…Sigh | tattoohistorian.com
As an academic, professional, and historian, she's stoked that it's not as bad as most tattoo histories - gangs, criminals and the like - but points out a number of glaring errors and her commentary is on the nose regarding things like this becoming primary sources for teachers, news reporters etc.
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http://tattoohistorian.com/2014/04/21/the-melodramatic-nostalgia-of-tattoo-reporting/#more-285
last link post and i'm gonna get back to doing things pertaining to real life now. But so good, so relevant, I am in love with this woman.
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I think I remember @El Dolmago discussing how she snuck some tattoo history into one of her lectures? Tattooed people giving a little bit of history in context is kinda cool IMHO!
Margot Mifflin, who wrote "Bodies of Subversion" and "The Blue Tattoo: The Life of Olive Oatman" is an academic who has written some interesting and informed material about tattoo and the history of tattoo, and I believe she travels around giving lectures about tattoo history.
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@Vaas there's an antique bookstore near me that has some older books on Maori tattooing and the like - I don't know where you live, but try a library and check out 'tattoo' in the anthropology sections, you might have some luck!
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Sorry, can't seem to stop with this.
I've enjoyed many posts from this site: http://tattoohistorian.com/
I agree with @Graeme and @bongsau that fundamentally the best way to learn about tattoos is to get tattooed and talk with tattooed people - and that it's important that that is how the history/culture etc is passed on, but I also think there are a number of things academics can contribute to the history of tattoo! Learning, researching, compiling, educating.
We have some tattooed academics here on the board who are ensconced in the culture, and who have learned it (are still and always learning) the "right" way - I would love to take classes from them, if they were to offer some sort of tattoo curriculum.
But "tattoo 101" or other pop/made for the masses courses - yeah, that kinda sours my stomach. The source DOES matter.
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Restaurant refuses service to man because of facial tattoos
The restaurant is now facing backlash after they refused service to a man for having facial tattoos.
Check out this story on KHOU.com: Restaurant refuses service to man because of facial tattoos
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Welcome! Your collection makes me want to be your friend! You've got lots of good stuff! And agreed, that koji kneecap is sick.
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As far as your back goes, I recently re-wrapped mine for four days after the tattoo per my artist's instruction, and it kept me from scanning and the heal much more comfortable. You just have to have someone place the wrap for you, I couldn't do it by myself!