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    where did the tattooers go?

    in General Tattoo Discussion

    Posted

    I think we can be blasé and attribute the reasons to whatever but that's just speculation , what we do have is feedback from the artists that remain and should entertain the possibility that each of us is slipping and take it upon ourselves to do something about that .

    Remember the words of my man Jimi Hendrix " Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens "

    or that other hippie Arthur Schopenhauer " Treat a work of art like a prince : let it speak to you first "

    The origins of popular English sayings -

    in Random Crap

    Posted

    Interesting History

    They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families

    used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken &

    Sold to the tannery... if you had to do this to survive

    you were "Piss Poor"

    But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't

    even afford to buy a pot... they "didn't have a pot to

    piss in" & were the lowest of the low

    The next time you are washing your hands and complain

    because the water temperature isn't just how you like it,

    think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about

    the 1500s:

    Most people got married in June because they took their

    yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by

    June.. However, since they were starting to smell...

    Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

    Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting

    Married.

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man

    of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then

    all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the

    children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so

    dirty you could actually lose someone in it..

    Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

    Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no

    wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get

    warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs)

    lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and

    sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof...

    Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

    There was nothing to stop things from falling into the

    house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs

    and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top

    afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into

    existence.

    The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other

    than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had

    slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet,

    so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their

    footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping

    outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.

    Hence: a thresh hold.

    (Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

    In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big

    kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit

    the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly

    vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the

    stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold

    overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew

    had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence

    the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas

    porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could

    obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.

    When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.

    Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

    Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination

    would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.

    Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

    England is old and small and the local folks started running

    out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins

    and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the

    grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins

    were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they

    realized they had been burying people alive...

    So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

    Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night

    (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone

    could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

    And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring

    Book thread

    in Random Crap

    Posted

    Picked up the critically acclaimed " Englands Dreaming Sex Pistols and Punk Rock " and " Chopper " the notorious Mark Read's story at a local charity shop , it's always amazing what you can find in these places but I totally wasn't expecting to see a copy of " Mein Kampf " amongst their shelves .

    Latest tattoo lowdown.....

    in General Tattoo Discussion

    Posted

    It's just a pity my calves are so skinny... Years of squatting and you wouldn't know to look. I heard Arnold Schwarzenegger had the same problem in his early days.

    @RoryQ Yes his solution was to cut his track pants at the knee so he could expose his weak calves and therefore he would see them all the time and be more inclined to train them . However you have out foxed a jedi- mind master

    as I'm sure you're checking yours frequently . Another tip from the Austrian Oak is to throw in a set of calves between every set of other bodyparts , the reason being that they are easy to blow off if you leave them to the end of a session as most people do .

    Traditional Japanese V. 'American' Japanese Tattoos

    in Tattoo Advice

    Posted

    Again I don't totally agree with the Japanese tattoo families thingy, to my limited experience that ties you to one style of execution and has very rigid guidelines, but doesn't explain guys like Rico Daruma (Brazilian who plied his trade on the mean streets of N.Y. city ), Ichibay ( to my mind his work is the most faithful to the ukiyo-e masters and I feel more influenced by them than a tattoo style and subsequently Hiroshi Hirakawa ) amongst others .

    DARUMA GOYA TATTOO, Japan

    Traditional Japanese V. 'American' Japanese Tattoos

    in Tattoo Advice

    Posted

    Like @Dhopper said in the original thread to me it's a ratio or matter of degrees

    By my eyes traditional Japanese is similar to traditional Americana in that the motifs are very bold and almost simplified , when I see Western influenced Japanese it looks more "busy " . When you look at the older style trad Japanese it is mainly single deity stuff you don't see dragon/tiger sleeves and most often sleeves are sakura and clouds , water with possibly goldfish or even just water or maybe a single Dragon . This may be to tie in with a full body suit as a whole concept , again I'm no expert just my thoughts .

    For anyone wanting to see good examples of Traditional Japanese Tattooing there's a nifty series of books put out by the Japanese magazine Tattoo Burst called Nihon Dentou Shisei vol 1,2, and 3 easily identified by their red, black and blue individual colours . The books are in Japanese and beautifully photographed and are normally listed on e-Bay .

    Here's some very clear examples of the type of thing I'm alluding to by Japanese Irezumi designer Osen from the 50's and 60's -

    http://www.kspublishers.com/?page_id=1497

    Ink Masters

    in Tattoo TV Shows, Documentaries and Media

    Posted

    I think that American (or European) Japanese is a totally different thing than Japanese Japanese....

    Personally I don't totally agree ,and think a lot of what's going on right now the distinction is really blurred . I think Horiyoshi III's post 80's to more recent stuff looks more Western and guys like Ivan Szazi and Chris Brand as examples more Japanese than some Japanese if that makes sense .

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