jimstanley

Tattoos on the side of the face, or on the head are somethin else, as are tribal tattoos, but if you don't live in an area with common facial tattoos for a while I can't see any good way to justify it. I would get my hands tattooed if I ever needed to. I'm not a lawyer, and no one I know is a lawyer, so I just leave copyright alone and hope I never have to deal with it.

I don't get asked these questions. I also don't draw attention to my tattoos.
The annoying ones for me are "Show me your eagle!" to which I reply "Let me see your chest too!"
If someone is asking for meaning they're trying to feel included and fuck them for not being able to stay in their own damn lane

I don't get asked these questions. I also don't draw attention to my tattoos.
The annoying ones for me are "Show me your eagle!" to which I reply "Let me see your chest too!"
If someone is asking for meaning they're trying to feel included and fuck them for not being able to stay in their own damn lane

You could always try the halt-the-conversation-with TMI approach if it gets really uncomfortable. "This Hot Stuff represents my struggle with irritable bowel syndrome." This was a super fun way of dealing with annoying questions about whether I was pregnant when I gained weight a few years ago.

I don't get asked these questions. I recommend you start giving off unfriendlier vibes.

I just feel really awkward, but I find it's usually people who want to tell you the meaning of their tattoo that will ask

"It means I got tattooed that day." That's my first response, honestly...and it tends to quiet the person asking (because we all know that fellow collectors would never say anything like that.) It usually just kinda stuns the asker, as they think "How could a tattoo mean nothing more than that?"

Evolutionarily I like to equate tattoos to the coloring on venomous animals. And the mating habits of birds. Not necessarily essential for the individual, but an inextricable part of effectively living a good life... My body doesn't need it but my soul does
@Graeme makes a good point about tattoos not having an exchange value... There is no real economic interaction between clients and tattooers except for flash. The thought of tattoos appreciating in value, though, makes me wonder how much the stuff from tattoo city and what back in the days would be worth now
To call them a luxury item is a bit silly to me... Anyone can tattoo themselves or someone else for free, with an original image or with some old flash. I guess theres kind of a division between tattoos and luxury tattoos.
Is spending thousands on a backpiece part of the human experience? Or is finding a friend/being a friend who will tattoo you part of the human experience? Or is receiving/wearing the tattoo part of the human experience whether you paid admission or snuck in?

Have you called or visited the shop in person?

Calling might help lol

Tattoos are a luxury good, but they are also in a way the anti-luxury good. I hate having a lot of possessions, and I hate how society encourages us to buy new, not reduce the amount of things being put into production. Tattoos are anti-production because they are a luxury we can have, that go with us to die, and leave no additional lasting fingerprint afterwards (anyone who's had to deal with what to do with a loved one's possessions after they have passed will understand the struggle!). I like the idea of them being a statement against physical goods and against wastefulness.

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If there's any good thing about that stupid article it made me come back to this website to see if anyone was talking about it.
The thing I dislike most about the article is her argument that it's her body and she can do whatever she wants to it. That's not how bodily autonomy works, the right to do anything to your body does not mean she has the right to tell OTHER PEOPLE what to do to her body. By not respecting the artist's right to refuse work, she's dehumanizing him. It's sad we live in a world where a feminist website will publish an article by somebody who doesn't even understand agency.

Tipping conversations on the internet are the WORST.
@polliwog - feel free to ask the artist what they'd prefer re: shaving! I've only had one actually let me know upfront that I should do it myself, a couple have said they don't care either way, etc.

I thought we had done all this , move on , theres nothing to see here !

I read through quite a bit of this thread. I'll just respond to how I have behaved my 3 times in the chair, to which I believe I exhibited good client behavior.
In all my three sessions, I 100% concentrated and always gave my canvas (arm) exactly as the artist wanted it. I kept it loose, and when the pain was real bad, every other part of my body contorted and tensed up to absorb pain, except for my working arm. I didn't break the position until he told me too. I didn't want to break his concentration because of my movement.
I've tipped well each time. Gunnar got extras on top of cash.
I adjusted my conversation to let the artist control it, kind of like speak when spoken to. I felt going in that some artists may like to talk while doing their work, and others don't. Again, I just wanted to make sure the artist was in his zone, not mine. In all instances, the atmosphere was relaxed and conversation flowed freely, and in heavy concentration all was quiet.
I came in to each of my tattoo sessions with the knowledge that they were transactions with multiple levels. For one it was business - a service with a fee. It's also art - me being the canvas for the artist. It's also a connection - although I'm a client, I also felt like a friend because I was having this artist (person) permanently putting their mark/art on me. I am to carry somebody's art on me for life, so I wanted the artist to feel how important the whole process was for me.

Sell everything!

Depends on what they are helping with. My mom helped us build our house. We help our two daughters occasionally - just gave the youngest (31) $150 for an exterminator to take care of a yellow jacket infestation at her house. We help the oldest (44) with medical bills. I still have the youngest on our family cell plan. She has made enough to own a home and car outright, but we still help sometimes. 'Cause we love them. I'd want to know about tattoos to make sure they get good ones safely. I'd also not expect to "loan" them money immediately before or after they paid for ink.

Surprised at how casually the money issue was discussed here... If I had been giving someone money for (things that I deemed) necessities like rent or school, and then I saw them cruising around town in a brand new car, or with a brand new tattoo... That's super disrespectful. It's like being in debt to a drug dealer and blowing all your money on other shit... you're gonna get hit...
If a person can afford this nonsense they should be able to afford everything else. Getting tattooed while still living under a financial security blanket is childish

Surprised at how casually the money issue was discussed here... If I had been giving someone money for (things that I deemed) necessities like rent or school, and then I saw them cruising around town in a brand new car, or with a brand new tattoo... That's super disrespectful. It's like being in debt to a drug dealer and blowing all your money on other shit... you're gonna get hit...
If a person can afford this nonsense they should be able to afford everything else. Getting tattooed while still living under a financial security blanket is childish

Surprised at how casually the money issue was discussed here... If I had been giving someone money for (things that I deemed) necessities like rent or school, and then I saw them cruising around town in a brand new car, or with a brand new tattoo... That's super disrespectful. It's like being in debt to a drug dealer and blowing all your money on other shit... you're gonna get hit...
If a person can afford this nonsense they should be able to afford everything else. Getting tattooed while still living under a financial security blanket is childish

I remember being really young, listening to my dad's old eclectic mix of an 80's weirdo records, and reading comics and d&d books. My brother watched me when I was young so I used to skate with him and when he went to the comic shop to play magic I sat in the front and read whatever I could get my hands on. My parents would never let me buy comics. We actually weren't allowed to go to the comic shop. Weird. Whatever music taste I have independent of my dad's started developing with RATM. That was when I started writing and drawing. I draw less now but still write. Then the ambiguous "they" got worried about me so I got stuck in band which I guess worked out. I started playing trombone and then picked up guitar, started listening to a lot more music. Then in high school I started a pseudo-psychedelic desert jam/cover band with some friends and I've been in that world ever since. Everyone raps now, but. Dust blows forward and dust blows back. Whatever textbook sub-cultures I was into were basically me becoming attached to things my dad remembered from growing up in east LA. Mostly kustom kulture and motorcycle stuff I saw from afar. There were communities of people around everything I was into but I'd hardly call them sub-cultures. More like packs of desert refugee kids.
As far as whatever paved the way for the passion... I'm still too young and destructive to care too much. Tattoos have been around my whole life and I always thought they were cool, I dont know if me reading comics, skating, playing magic, liking punk rock, or being into old cars and ed roth had anything to do with that. All those things definitely influenced my taste in art and what exactly is visually appealing to me though. I guess it's a question of correlation and causation.

I remember being really young, listening to my dad's old eclectic mix of an 80's weirdo records, and reading comics and d&d books. My brother watched me when I was young so I used to skate with him and when he went to the comic shop to play magic I sat in the front and read whatever I could get my hands on. My parents would never let me buy comics. We actually weren't allowed to go to the comic shop. Weird. Whatever music taste I have independent of my dad's started developing with RATM. That was when I started writing and drawing. I draw less now but still write. Then the ambiguous "they" got worried about me so I got stuck in band which I guess worked out. I started playing trombone and then picked up guitar, started listening to a lot more music. Then in high school I started a pseudo-psychedelic desert jam/cover band with some friends and I've been in that world ever since. Everyone raps now, but. Dust blows forward and dust blows back. Whatever textbook sub-cultures I was into were basically me becoming attached to things my dad remembered from growing up in east LA. Mostly kustom kulture and motorcycle stuff I saw from afar. There were communities of people around everything I was into but I'd hardly call them sub-cultures. More like packs of desert refugee kids.
As far as whatever paved the way for the passion... I'm still too young and destructive to care too much. Tattoos have been around my whole life and I always thought they were cool, I dont know if me reading comics, skating, playing magic, liking punk rock, or being into old cars and ed roth had anything to do with that. All those things definitely influenced my taste in art and what exactly is visually appealing to me though. I guess it's a question of correlation and causation.