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I found it. and apologies to @hgiles for stealing his thunder . . .

@Just Alex and @Dennis big ups for two new dudes for getting this shit started right! I always think of Dana Helmuth (and uh, Filip Leu) when I think of tibetan skulls.. and I know the Helmuth association is from a TAM interview.. Gonna have to check my bookshelves tomorrow and see if I can find some. Good stuff! And goodnight! (Yeah, just got off work, feeling pretty all right about now..)

instead of blacking out your arm just get rubendall to do some dope jap work on it! itll cost about the same, thats aloooootttt of black packing.

I've never been tattooed with a tebori but the technique seems to differ in that the tebori is longer and is applied using both hands, the thumb is used to support and direct the business end of the tool. The hand tool that Adam uses is more the size and shape of a pencil and is held in the same way. The needles are the same tattoo needles used in regular tattoo machines. It hurt less than being tattooed with a machine but by the end it was getting a bit sore. I was supprised how quickly it was done (it's about hand sized, across the wings of the moth). About three and a half hours of tattooing. One major difference, for a lower leg tattoo, is the absence of any swelling or lower leg pain. Usually I suffer really badly with, post tattoo leg swelling and pain.

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Thanks guys! I am so pumped for this sitting! Since we're on the topic, I'll post some more skulls! Filip Leu: Kurt Wiscombe: Bill Canales: Shige: Victor Portugal: :)

sorry about the random posts and your welcome to the comments about my tattoo posts im still not used to tagging people, Eric told me a story about mike malone he finished my tattoo, and told me for my help it would be a free tattoo, i tried to tip him, and he told me "i said it was free." he then proceeded to tell me to never double cross a tattooer he said "i told you it would be free and thats what it is, mike malone told me a story about a tattoo he did at china sea, said he did a panther on a kid and when he turned his back to break his station down the kid fled the shop without paying, he told me that as soon as the kid made it into the street he was hit and killed by a bus, and thats why you never double cross a tattooer." my mouth was dropped by how awesome this story was haha. thanks again for checking out my stuff!

I apoligize if this is a repeat, but this is a pretty damn cool Higgs pictures I found surfing on that internet thing. With the late Sonny Tufts and Jack Dracula.

was exciting to see this last night. go to 41:06 - BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow: Series 35: Port Sunlight 2

When I had my ribs done, Nick used some kind of numbing wipe before he put the col;or in. For awhile, all I could feel was that he was doing some damn thing there. As a matter of course, I eat 7.5 of vicodin on my way in to sit, and if it goes longer than 3 hours or so, I'll eat another. When I got my ribs done, I added a 5mg. Valium to that, and yeah...it was like, all beautiful! But hey-I came up in the 60's and 70's, you know, better living through chemistry.

I think the answer to your question is in how you're defining a backpiece. Yes, if it's a traditional style japanese piece that goes from neck to knees then it might easily take up to 100 hours. However, what if it's american traditional or a smaller japanese-style piece that only goes to the waist? That'll take a significant amount of time off. If it's black and grey, or has a significant amount of negative space, then even more. I think my backpiece would fit into this category - it took around 25 hours (OK, maybe 25-30...) :- This backpiece, by Xam (The Family Business Tattoo, London) was done in 16 hours:- Now that does blow my mind. Similarly, I've seen other backpieces on that scale banged out in short spaces of time, attributed to people like Filip Leu.

I have never seen solid black out work that looks good. I think all the wrinkles and imperfections in your skin stand out more with a solid black sleeve and even if it's solid it never really looks solid black it's kindy of patchy. There are so many cool things you can get tattooed on you, and so many people like myself that would kill for some blank space on our arms to tattoo.

@SStu Not me buddy but I know who you are thinking of, big Chad K tibetan skull on ribs!! When I think tibetan skull this always pops into my thoughts, I think this could be the holy grail of all tibetan skulls. Shiges' bodysuit by Filip Leu,legends!!

It will be on the outside of my upper arm as part of a sleeve by Kore Flatmo. Here is one he has done in the past:

I just discovered this forum via Valerie Vargas' blog (which I am stalking since I desperately want to get an appointment with her at the Mondial du Tatouage convention in March) and decided to sign up. I'm an American chick living in Paris, doing my masters degree in translation. :) So hi!

Iggy Vans, Idle Hand Tattoo in SF. I know of one person on LST that has something from him, but I don't here about him much. Very no frills, solid traditional work. Tattooing professionally in the San Francisco Bay Area since 1994, Iggy Vans began his career at Erno Szabady's now-legendary studio on Fillmore St., in the Lower Haight, as well as at Erno's sister shop on Front St. in Santa Cruz. He has also tattooed at Everlasting (on McAllister St.), Freddy Corbin's Tattoo 13 in Oakland, Lyle Tuttle's on Columbus Ave. & at the original Picture Machine on Geary Blvd. & 4th Ave. After all those years moving around, Iggy is very proud to be back in the Lower Haight, as a senior artist on the staff at Idle Hand, since January 2005.

this is the one from Zach Nelligan I had mentioned.

Ah that's awesome man, looking forward to seeing it in 2013! That is indeed an awesome tibetan skull! Filip Leu's work is obviously amazing... he is one of the few artists that I read about when I first started getting seriously interested in tattooing who is still talked about regularly today I think. I imagine that getting work from him is a serious challenge! I usually prefer colour tattoos but find his black and grey stuff insanely good. Thanks for this... that is the sort of size and placement I'm thinking I would like. Bet it stung! Not sure how long a sitting I could hack on my ribs, I was awful when I got my back done, I think the tattooer hated me a bit...arms and thighs seem alright to me...but I'm hella scared of the ribs! Here are a couple of drawings I like, first by a guy called Rodrigo Morbeck, second by Beppe Shiro - I know nothing about these artists, just found the images on an instagram search.

They sure do use a lot of ice in Nowwhere, OK.

doesnt sound much like contrast actually; just 2 different tattoos on the same person. when i think contrast, i think of 2 things that compliment each other to bring it together as a whole. this just sounds like and will look like a huge cover-up on one arm, and a nice sleeve on the other arm. the only contrast will be interesting sleeve/boring sleeve.

Awesome! Keep us posted on how the healing process goes. I hope it goes better than with your past (and my most recent) lower leg tattoo.

Need a t-shirt..haha. This is by Morten Transeth at Blue Arms Tattoo, Oslo - Norway.

this is by zach nelligan. straight up team logos are lame, but I’m totally down with a tattoo like this one. Zach also posted another baseball tattoo with the diamond and some other things incorporated. It was really awesome. I love baseball-grew up playing it-so at some point I know that I’d like to get a baseball related tattoo. edit-the one thing i don't like about this tattoo is the mustacheod gentleman. i really don't like the whole 1800s/1900s gentleman with mustache designs, but this is still an awesome sports tattoo. if i'd have gotten this, the dude just wouldn't have the mustache.

Im new to the board, my name is matthew mcclain, i am 20 years old, I tattoo at Bombs Away Tattoo in the great military town of Jacksonville North Carolina. I was apprenticed by an amazing artist and person named Bart Andrews, i have had amazing experiances that i am grateful for as well as people i have gotten to work with, Im a fan of bold traditional tattoos, guns, motorcycles, skateboards, and having a good time. I am interested in learning everything i can in this life time about the amazing craft that tattooing is. I figured i would make a profile on this board for down time when im not painting drawing, or at the shop. I have plenty of paintings for sale as well as handmade acetate stencils that i like to make on spare time, hell, i usually just give them away. if you are interested in anything i post feel free to talk! thanks for your time!

Boa ;) Quando vieres ca diz. Se quiseres passa la no estudio onde trabalho e se puder mostro te um pouco da cidade ali a volta e dou te umas indicações de sitios a visitar. E obrigado pelas boas vindas :)

Bear with it! its all apart of the experience!

My back is going to be one huge Tibetan skull. Start with Mr. Flatmo in January.

Hey how's it going. What shop do you work at?

Richard was on the phone with CLMN tonight... And he asked the golden question that Richard, and me have... Why do they choose these people? What is the criteria, and why do they not pick actual skilled tattooers? That's the burning question. Thinking about how pissed I am at our GC right now, I can't help but hate on MF'rs that sell shit, like it's tv I know, but if you are into cars you watch shows that are about cars, like theres a story to it, or it's about cars, or it's actually tattoo sited, as in you look at tattoos, not so much the people that get them, or the people that make them, but the actual tattoo... Design, detail, etc... Not Barbershop, or BUllshit non tattoo related. But I guess my whole deal was thinking with a name like Ink Master, you would think... Just a little that they would be skilled, and trained, and knowledgable about tattoos, cause that's the premise... But on second thought, it's easier to make fun and exploit the dumb bastard that has no idea they suck. And by getting picked for the show, that loads their ego even more... Only for the "real" tattooers to sick back in shock and awe, at what shit this is that they are representing as us on tv, and online. Horrific. WOW. I just threw up in my mouth a little. Some poor bastard is about to get a shitstorm of an email next, cause this thought just pissed me off. Richard just told me to stop typing so hard.

Have a Fatboy as well ...also a fan of pretty much any motorcycle. As long as you're in the wind.

Brandon Bond: Paul Booth (couldn't find a picture of the whole thing):

Here's a snake piece from Kurt Wiscombe, from early 2000 I believe!

I think I mentioned somewhere once that getting my butt worked on wasn't all that bad, well...I change my mind. That's over the top awful. Shading isn't bad, but having it outlined is horrible. Previously the artist outlined and shaded my right side for my backpiece, now she's starting on the left. This time I was squirming through the whole process. My body would just twitch involuntarily. That said it'll be nice when it's finished. It's odd walking around knowing you've one bum cheek completely covered in black and the other pale as the full moon ;-)

Had such a great day today in Brighton. Got tattooed by Adam Sage at Into You. Adam tattoos without electricity with a hand tool. Amazing experience,

got about 3 hours of work done on my whole front by an amazing artist in North Carolina named Brandon Munday, dude kills it reminds me alot of tony hundahl super awesome tattoos check his instagram out and spread the love @mundaytattoo

A nice one by Peter Lagergren at Malmö Classic Tattooing - Sweden.

It's kind of like beer logos. I started out thinking I was going to get a whole leg of beer logos tattooed on me, I ended up with 2 that made pretty good tattoos and after seeing how bad some others have turned out decided to fill up my leg with traditional stuff instead. Attached are the two tattoos I ended up getting, done by Ross Ferrie and Mike Volkakis respectfully. Check out the link some bad stuff going on.. CraftBeer.com | Vote for the Top Ten Tattoos of Craft Beer

Andrea Furci at The Family Business, London.

The latest addition to the garage...hasn't been fired in about seven years, but hopefully that'll change today or over the weekend. All factory-original, matching numbers 1948 Panhead with factory hack. Ain't too durn many of these on the loose out there anymore.

Just a heads up: Tattoo City will be in full force again with Mary Joy and I tattooing all 3 days. Kahlil should be there one day as well, but unfortunately Jen Lee won't be able to attend. My father will be at the convention on Saturday and we will have more of his original art and prints for sale. Hardy Marks books also at the booth!

"Is she ok....SICK...WOOOAAHAHH" brootal

I'm not a fan of having an unknown (to me) artist working on me at a convention or anywhwere. At a convention, there is no allegiance to the client like you have when working from a shop. I don't know how widespread the problem is. Call me old school, but I still like a solid outline and the color filled in well. Any sizeable tattoo I've ever gotten has needed a touch up here and there. And nothin' looks better than a month-old healed tattoo, its all downhill from there. Your results may vary. Rob

He's well-known in these parts, but I haven't seen much mention of Dave Cummings from PSC Tattoo, Montreal on LST: - - - Updated - - - Another local guy who I feel deserves some recognition (again, pretty well-known locally) is Pol from Pol Tattoo, Montreal.

here's one mark cross did.

@Natveggie45 If you want PM me where you are at and we can talk as I may have some leads for your daughter in your area. Most my colleagues and I work from a Motivational Interviewing and Harm Reduction framework which not only has great research to support change but also change we've seen facilitated by individuals more often than not.

Just personal experience here. Clean and sober 5 years earlier this month and 30 years old now. The best thing my mom ever did for me was kick me out. Oddly enough she's a school teacher too. She's been a guidance counselor at an elementary school for almost 20 years now. I spent a day in a homeless shelter and was able to get in to a rehab program the salvation army runs for homeless people. It was a bit religious for my taste, but it was free, and it really helped. If you do some digging there are actually quite a few rehab(ish) places that are basically free of charge. I wouldn't call what happened to me an ultimatum or an intervention. She came home to find me passed out drunk on the couch and when I left she called the police. She came to visit me in jail after that and told me she could get me into this rehab place if I wanted, or I was on my own. She's my biggest supporter today, and we've got a great relationship. I know it's hard, and it's a shit decision to have to make, but I don't know anyone who got clean living with mommy and daddy. It's probably happened a few times, I just don't know of any. Just know there's a world of love out there, and there is help. Welcome to Al-Anon Family Groups

I was watching that show intervention,and the drug therapist said that relapse is part of recovery.I would have to agree with that for at least 50% of addicts.I used to smoke PCP everyday for years,and rob money from my brother and mother until my mom had enough and said either go to rehab,or get out of the house.I was 23yrs old at this time.I wen't to rehab,and after two days there,i called a taxi,and left the place.when i got home she said either go back to rehab,or get out of the house.well i ended up going back to rehab for 23 days,and when i got out,i was straight for 5yrs without meetings or anything,but i was so depressed,i ended up having a few beers one day.After i relapsed,i started going to meetings,and have been sober for 17yrs. Recovery is a one day at a time thing,that lasts a lifetime.The real problem is the person,not the drugs.We just try to escape ourselves through the use of drugs,because we don't like the way we feel.I would also suggest going to some Al-Anon meetings to better understand your daughter's addiction.

It like going to a dentist with no teeth. Wtf